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And the award for fugliest grips goes to... Grips are easy to replace if that is a deal breaker. Here is my Bulldog .44 Special with replacement grips in my Kramer Horse Hide holster
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I considered the Charter Patriot in 327 once, until I actually got my paws on one. And I am a 327 slut.
I would check out the "Professional", if it would shoot 327 Fed. 32 H&R...meh. Just not that much more than a 22WMR.
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Looks like they contracted the “contoured” grips out to an eighth grade shop class.
I’m big on the 32 mag, not so much on anything Charter. Hard pass First thing I thought of was 7th Grade wood shop.
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Pretty cool gun. I'd like to own a Charter 44 one of these days. Have wanted one since I was a kid. I carried one back in the 1980s.
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I like it. I think Charter had a bad reaction to 327, too much pressure. I'm sure the cylinder would need substantial more beef to chamber 7rnds of 327. I'll pick one up. I will be interested in seeing the cylinder wall thickness on the new Charter. I have a Charter Arms Patriot. I load it as a warm .32 H&R with heavy for the caliber bullets. I believe heavy bullets in the .32 caliber Kit Guns is the best option. Modest velocity with a heavy punch. I like the Charter fine but the front sight leaves a great deal to be desired. It is smooth frosted stainless. I painted it black and that helped. Here are some old pictures comparing the .327 Federal Charter Patriot cylinder walls and barrel thickness to the .32 H&R Smith & Wesson. Smith & Wesson M 632 and Charter Patriot Charter Patriot cylinder wall thickness NEI heavy for the caliber .32 bullets
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Buffalo Bore has some semi-wadcutter (lead) .32 H&R mag +P "Outdoorsman" rounds that it claims will easily penetrate a bear's skull. https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=270HEAVY 32 H&R MAG. +P OUTDOORSMAN 130 gr. Hard Cast Keith @ 1,125 fps This 32 H&R +P load is designed for those who need a very deep penetrating hard cast heavy load. This load should penetrate about three feet into flesh and bone. While we have not tried it, based on our knowledge of other like-designed revolver loads in 357, and 44, this bullet should easily penetrate a large bear’s skull. The bullet is 21-22 BHN and is properly lubed and will not substantially lead foul barrels.
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Definitely more mass. I'll take that thin walled 632 off your hands. Just thinking of your safety....
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It is just a 32-- how much wall thickness does it need?
Should be good walking in the woods gun
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Tam, at View from the porch-- says the 32 H&R is way under rated.
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I like revolvers and I like .32's,..and the Charter looks like a nice revolver. But I have to say, I can't see that the .32 H&R is an improvement on a good .380 load that can be fired from a handgun much smaller and lighter than the Charter Arms is.
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I haven't seen a .380 loading 130gr rounds. There may be some but I haven't seen em
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The big selling point is 7rnds in something J frame sized. I have a 317 and 63, both 3" 8rnd 22s for shooting [bleep] when I'm cutting my field. This little 32 should have them covered
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Definitely more mass. I'll take that thin walled 632 off your hands. Just thinking of your safety.... Its good to have someone looking out for my safety! Themass of the barrels for the .327 Federal over the .32 H&R Magnum is interesting. These are old pictures and I need to learn to label folders better - hard to find. The cylinder wall and barrel thickness between the M631, the GP100 and the Blackhawk are interesting. I have a S&W M632 Carry comp and the barrel is thick on it also. Ruger .327 Blackhawk GP100 and S&W M631 cylinder walls Ruger GP100 and S&W cylinder walls The GP and the Blackhawk are good cross stick handguns. The Charter Arms Patriot is a bit better Kit Gun for carry.
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The 32 is a weird little caliber where penetration is concerned. It penetrates real good. About 9 years ago I walked around the side of one of my houses and met a Pitbull in mid jump toward my throat, I pulled my S&W J-Frame 32 H&R with Buff Bore and fired. It went into the neck area and dropped him. The bullet exited his ass cheek. The dog weighed 95 pounds on my Meth dog scale.
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I'm not very impressed.
The article says it holds two extra rounds more than a typical revolver. Except for 19th century designs it's actually only one extra round.
I'd rather have a .38 Special with +P ammo or a .357. For concealed carry, there are 9mm semis that are easier to conceal, more powerful, and hold 7 rounds.
Besides I think it's ugly but others might not mind. And yeah, you can change the grips, but why should you have to?
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It reminds me of the "J" frame .38sp, S&W model 36 with a 3" barrel. A friend of mine had one, and it was sweet. It only had 5 shots, but it handled really well for a small frame.
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When Ruger FINALLY releases their LCRx model with the 3” barrel and adjustable sights in .327 Fed Mag caliber, THEN will we finally have the PERFECT KIT GUN. 🤠
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And the Charter Bulldog.44 is about the only interesting & useful product they make. 😜
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Ruger made the SP101 as a six-shot .32 H&R with a 4 inch barrel. I have one and love it. Not sure that the extra round is worth going from Ruger to Charter Arms.
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Ruger made the SP101 as a six-shot .32 H&R with a 4 inch barrel. I have one and love it. Not sure that the extra round is worth going from Ruger to Charter Arms. It looks like Charter Arms is attempting to up their game with this offering. There's actually not a thing wrong with the Charter Arms revolver design. It was actually ahead of its time, and in some ways superior to S&W and Colt, in that it permitted stronger guns with less steel, not having side plates. Do it right, and it should give Ruger and S&W both a run for their money.
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