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WTH, did that deer have a titanium shoulder replaced by a veterinarian orthopedist?? That or you were lucky to get some bum bullets. Very strange bullet behavior. Sh*t happens sometimes I guess.
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I don't doubt what you saw for even one minute.
It's possible that it hit something hard before it or a piece of it hit the deer.
That is certainly not a normal outcome for any 190 grain bullet travelling less than 2000 ft/s
Not making excuses for the bullet, but I seen some crazy sheet.
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Funny, I've never heard anyone complain about any Silvertip of any persuasion being frangible. I remember my old man and his friends bitch*ing about Silvertips not expanding enough. Personally, I've never shot a Silvertip at any living thing so I'm not one to talk.
Do they count as anti-vampire medicine?
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Heard the same Gary from my kin.
I shot a couple of deer with 170 grain silvertips in 32 Win special when I was a teenager. Can't say exactly what they did when they got to the deer other than killed it.
Crazy sheet happens when bullets hit flesh and bone though. I've seen it on many occasions.
And I believe vampires would be running scared of anybody with a loaded magazine of 303 silvertips...
"You cannot invade mainland America. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass" ~Admiral Yamamoto~
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I never have hunted with silver tips but I read they could cause a harvest event to end in tears.
Some joy, some not.
Gonna have to try em out on a few 2 decide.
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I got around to doing some looking at the PPU 303 Sav brass vs Win 30-30 Win brass last evening. Here is what I found.
WT of new ppu--166.5 gr------wt of new win--133.4 gr. water capacity to top of neck of a fired, resized, and trimmed ppu case from a box of Graf's Hornady ammo plus a random fired primer from the catch pan of my press---42.7 gr. this case was 2.010 in long and weighed 169.7 gr with that fired primer. after scouring the loading room for a fired 30-30, I found one in the top of my range box of unknown provenance--may have been a range pickup but it was a Win manu. I sized it and replaced that exact fired primer. it weighed 144.3 gr and was 2.035 in long. water capacity filled to the top of the neck was 44.1 gr.
seems like Ken Waters found varying weights of win cases in his 2 nd review of the 30-30. These wts closely parallel his. Hondo said-everyman should do what he wants to do Davy said-make sure you're right and then go ahead The newest of these girls are pushing 80. Reduced case capacities, Increased bullet weights. Fairly fast burning powder.--Kinda sounds like 14 karet gold, 90 proof bourbon, and 100 proof women! HANDLE WITH CARE
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I would like to buy a box to try them for comparison to my handloads if you are willing
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I'll put them in auction and see what the market says.
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I haven't seen a box of .303's on the ammo shelf in years in the Midwest. I have seen the deeply discounted 99's in .303 just because ammo is so hard to come by. To my way of thinking, lots of old timers with a .303 in a 99 are the once a year deer hunters who don't reload anything and your factory ammo would go for premium prices. Those same guys don't trust reloads either, so I wouldn't be shooting them up if I were you.The Silver Tips won't oxidize like the lead will, so they won't be showing their age like a soft point. I think that you would get more enjoyment out of the lap dances.
My other auto is a .45
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I meant 33 grains leverlotion powder 180 grain silver tip.
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I think that you would get more enjoyment out of the lap dances. My favorite lap dancer is probably retired now. She was making bank when she was working. Way better than I was!
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