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Any of the 100gr bullets out there are going to hammer deer from a 250 Savage if the shooter does their part. I've personally been using the Speer Hot-Cors for years with excellent results on game with both the 120gr and the 100gr. Unfortunately Speer no longer makes the 120's but they do the 100's. I've never used the 100gr BT's so I can't comment on those but my brother uses the 115gr BT's with great results.
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2800 fps? The 100 grain Ballistic Tip is easily up to the task.
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Use your 87 grainers ...................Try Speer hot-core .257 87gr for deer,and switch to 87gr TNT's,or 85 gr NBT for coyotes....................Use the same load,and they'll shoot to the same POA.
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The Ballistic Tip would be great! 100 grain
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Agree the 100 grain BT is a good all arounder.
I shoot the 115 BT and 117 Hornaday BTSP and may eventually get around to the 110 ELD-X but really am satisfied with what I am using now. I think a 1-9 twist is optimal for bullets heavier and longer than 110 grains. I think the 110 ELDX is as long as you can go with a 1-10 twist at least at low altitudes. I have even heard good reports on the 117 SST so maybe that is an improved one and these are typically soft enough for coyotes and even varmints.
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What about the Hornady 90 gr GMX bullet
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Load it up to kill deer, the deer loads will kill coyotes.
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What about the Hornady 90 gr GMX bullet I’m also looking for info on this bullet. I came across a couple hundered and was thinking of loading in my 25-06ai for antelope and white tails.
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What about the Hornady 90 gr GMX bullet Could match with the Sierra 90grn BlitzKing for varmints. Could look at the 80 grn TTSX matched with 85 Ballistic tip also. 87-100grn cup and core bullets are capable of handling double duty.
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Have you thought about the Nosler 100gn. Partition? Excellent bullet in my Mod. 20. Velocity should not be an issue...37.5 gn. of 4320 gives me 2940fps. 1x10x22 barrel.
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In a rifle with a ROT slower than 1-10", I'd go with the 87 grain Speer HotCore.
In a rifle with a 1-10" ROT I'd go with a 100 grain BT.
I have 2 bad experiences shooting deer with the 90 grain Sierra HPBT, disintegration on contact resulting in insufficient penetration, so I quit using them after using them successfully for over a decade. The rifle in question, or rate of twist in the barrel, has it been identified? I use both the 90 Sierra HPBT and the 90 grain BlitzKings almost interchangeably on varmints in my M1920 and 1899s with a 1-14" rotation. For modern 1-10" twist rifles like my Savage M14 I've loaded up Barnes 100 gr TSXs, and Nosler E-Tips. I still need to load up some Hornady GMX bullets and see how these print. For game I prefer to go lead free if I am able.
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The rifle is a Savage Model 16 Weather Warrior bolt action. I believe the twist is 1 in 10 but I have to go back and check for sure.
(I DON’T WANT TO HAVE TO CARRY TWO DIFFERENT TYPES OF BULLETS FOR THIS RIFLE, ONE FOR HUNTING VARMINTS AND THE OTHER FOR DEER)
This is why I asked about a dual purpose 100 grain bullet with possibly a bit higher ballistic coefficient that might carry a bit more momentum out a bit further. I know that is a bit of a stretch for this small “.25 caliber” cartridge, but it sure wouldn’t hurt it either. That is why I was thinking of these two Nosler bullets. I might give the Barnes 3X a try too.
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The M16 WW has the same 1-10" twist as my M14 AC. The Barnes TTSX -100 grainer would be super bullet but I'm not aware of a commercial loading. From the Barnes site: TTSXCaliber - 25 Cal Type - TTSX BT Weight - 100gr Diameter - .257 S.D.- 0.216 B.C.- 0.357 Length - 1.195
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Nosler 100gr Btips have been working well for me in a few 25-06s for many years. Woodchucks, deer, all the same. Deadly to 500 yards. Current production is a tad tougher than the first ones they offered years ago, but I had no issues with them either, on deer. Hands down, the most accurate bullet I've ever loaded in my rifles and I'd tried 'em all early on, from 75gr to 120 gr.
No reason I can think of, that they wouldn't work well in a 250 or a Bob?
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The Ballistic Tip would be great! ^^^This^^^
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[quote=olgrouser]The M16 WW has the same 1-10" twist as my M14 AC.
The Barnes TTSX -100 grainer would be super bullet but I'm not aware of a commercial loading. (End of Quote)
Olgrouser, my apologies, I wasn’t very clear. I meant that I didn’t want to reload (2) types of bullets AND have to carry both for that rifle. I have no problem reloading for any of my rifles. I will correct my post.
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I know that this post probably should be in the reloading forum but I thought I might get a broader viewing here. I am looking for suggestions on a good dual purpose “100 grain” .25 caliber bullet that will be leaving the barrel at about 2800 FPS. plus. I intend to use these bullets on coyotes primarily and also deer secondarily. They will be fired in a 250 Savage chambered bolt rifle. I have been using 87gr. Sierras for ‘yotes and loaded up 100gr. Sierra GK intended for deer but so far have not killed anything with those. The problem is the 100 grainers shoot to a different POI.......AND I don’t trust the GameKings to work reliably in that small of diameter. (Past experiences) I have heard over the past several years that Nosler has beefed up their Ballistic Tips so I was thinking about trying those in 100 grains. The Accubond would be my second/maybe first choice but they only come in 110 grains for .25 cal. My velocity would fall a bit. I am trying to stay with something that is as “arrow-dynamic” as I can. (Higher BC) Any good suggestions???? So....Cur, As you posted and I quote " I am trying to stay with something that is as “arrow-dynamic” as I can. (Higher BC) Any good suggestions????" Swift Scirocco 100 gr. .429 bc While I have not used the 25 cal, I have used the 130 grain 6.5 cal successfully on antelope, deer, caribou and elk. Swift makes a good bullet so give it a try. It is 100 grain (as you say you want) and “arrow-dynamic” BC = 0.429 This is everything you say you want. 8mmwapiti
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Thanks 8mmW. I will give them a try too, if the Nosler BT don’t work out accuracy wise.......
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