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Re: Thor Odin and all that... antelope_sniper #13722779 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by antelope_sniper Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by Terryk Ok, say a person has no church affiliation, but walks the path of Jesus, does that guy make the cut to heaven? The condition is true faith, but not just mental assent. Faith that results in true regeneration of the soul. As all the better reformers asserted by authority of the Apostle Paul... He that believes is justified. If you believe strictly one of Faith, or do you have good evidence supporting the truth of you proposition? Precise and specific fulfilled prophecies, primarily in Isaiah concerning the coming Messiah, given over 700 years in advance. Fulfilled in Christ. Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722781 04/07/19 Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,081 Likes: 4 Colorado A antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,081 Likes: 4 Colorado Originally Posted by Robert_White Whitefield... Great Awakening.. enabled unity in the colonies need for our revolution to succeed. Wesleys influence in England avoided a French Revolution style meltdown. So am I understanding your correctly, the French were the wrong kind of Christians, and that's why they had the French Revolution? You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Terryk #13722785 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by Terryk Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by Terryk Ok, say a person has no church affiliation, but walks the path of Jesus, does that guy make the cut to heaven? The condition is true faith, but not just mental assent. Faith that results in true regeneration of the soul. As all the better reformers asserted by authority of the Apostle Paul... He that believes is justified. So I am thinking that is a yes? Yes, if the faith is true, real and created in the heart by Grace and the Holy Spirit. The Puritans talked about evidences of true regeneration. Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... antelope_sniper #13722794 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by antelope_sniper Originally Posted by Robert_White Whitefield... Great Awakening.. enabled unity in the colonies need for our revolution to succeed. Wesleys influence in England avoided a French Revolution style meltdown. So am I understanding your correctly, the French were the wrong kind of Christians, and that's why they had the French Revolution? Prior to the French Revolution the Catholics murdered 70 thousand Protestants on St Bartholomews day. Slit their throats by the thousands. The Huguenots fled to the new world. Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722797 04/07/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming I IZH27 Campfire Tracker IZH27 Campfire Tracker I Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by Terryk Ok, say a person has no church affiliation, but walks the path of Jesus, does that guy make the cut to heaven? The condition is true faith, but not just mental assent. Faith that results in true regeneration of the soul. As all the better reformers asserted by authority of the Apostle Paul... He that believes is justified. Does faith cause regeneration?

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722801 04/07/19 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas The St Barts day massacre was like 250 year before the French Revolution. The 15th and 16th centuries had all of Europe embroiled in some form of religious war and persecution. Last edited by kaywoodie; 04/07/19. Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Thor Odin and all that... IZH27 #13722802 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by IZH27 Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by Terryk Ok, say a person has no church affiliation, but walks the path of Jesus, does that guy make the cut to heaven? The condition is true faith, but not just mental assent. Faith that results in true regeneration of the soul. As all the better reformers asserted by authority of the Apostle Paul... He that believes is justified. Does faith cause regeneration? The direct immediate power of the Holy Spirit causes regeneration. Faith in Christ crucified and raised is the condition, all enabled by Grace alone. Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... kaywoodie #13722809 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by kaywoodie The St Barts day massacre was like 250 year before the French Revolution. The 15th and 16th centuries had all Of Europe embroiled in some form of religious war and persecution. Yes, but it made France distinctly different from our colonies. We were 99 percent PROTESTANT, at the time if our revolution. I would think France was nearly devoid of Protestants in 1802 Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722812 04/07/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming I IZH27 Campfire Tracker IZH27 Campfire Tracker I Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by IZH27 Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by Terryk Ok, say a person has no church affiliation, but walks the path of Jesus, does that guy make the cut to heaven? The condition is true faith, but not just mental assent. Faith that results in true regeneration of the soul. As all the better reformers asserted by authority of the Apostle Paul... He that believes is justified. Does faith cause regeneration? The direct immediate power of the Holy Spirit causes regeneration. Faith in Christ crucified and raised is the condition, all enabled by Grace alone. So faith causes regeneration.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722813 04/07/19 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas There were still Huegenot enclaves in France. And still are today. I am a Huegenot descendant. My family went to Calvinist Scotland. Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Thor Odin and all that... kaywoodie #13722814 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by kaywoodie The St Barts day massacre was like 250 year before the French Revolution. The 15th and 16th centuries had all of Europe embroiled in some form of religious war and persecution. I make no claim to a perfect knowledge, but as I u understand it in almost every case the Catholics were the violent aggressors in Europe, especially in the Netherlands... the Spanish Fury... Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... kaywoodie #13722819 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by kaywoodie There were still Huegenot enclaves in France. And still are today. I am a Huegenot descendant. My family went to Calvinist Scotland. Most amazing. I know a Huguenot family down the road who have been on that land for over 300 years Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722824 04/07/19 Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,081 Likes: 4 Colorado A antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 31,081 Likes: 4 Colorado Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by antelope_sniper Originally Posted by Robert_White Whitefield... Great Awakening.. enabled unity in the colonies need for our revolution to succeed. Wesleys influence in England avoided a French Revolution style meltdown. So am I understanding your correctly, the French were the wrong kind of Christians, and that's why they had the French Revolution? Prior to the French Revolution the Catholics murdered 70 thousand Protestants on St Bartholomews day. Slit their throats by the thousands. The Huguenots fled to the new world. Modern estimates put that number as low as 5k, and no higher than 30k. Eight million dead during the 30 years war, and far from all the atrocities of that war were committed by Catholics. You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722826 04/07/19 Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 1 M mogwai Campfire Member mogwai Campfire Member M Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 364 Likes: 1 Originally Posted by Robert_White There are more than a few pro white folks who have totally repudiated Christianity in favor of ancient European paganism coupled with tribalism. In my mind... Fools beyond belief going down a dead end road of total futility What are “pro white folks” and why do they matter more than anyone else?

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722829 04/07/19 Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas K kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana kaywoodie Campfire 'Bwana K Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 31,630 Likes: 5 Fall Creek Blanco Co. Texas Originally Posted by Robert_White Originally Posted by kaywoodie The St Barts day massacre was like 250 year before the French Revolution. The 15th and 16th centuries had all of Europe embroiled in some form of religious war and persecution. I make no claim to a perfect knowledge, but as I u understand it in almost every case the Catholics were the violent aggressors in Europe, especially in the Netherlands... the Spanish Fury... Ever read Göethe’s play "Egmont"? Set in the Spanish Netherlands. Beethoven wrote an overture for the play. Remember a particular line from the play. “It is the plan that all common men should be armed”. Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester "Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored." WS

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722834 04/07/19 Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming I IZH27 Campfire Tracker IZH27 Campfire Tracker I Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 3,637 Likes: 3 Wyoming Do you adhere to Wesley’s doctrine of Christian perfection?

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722849 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 27,091 Colorado Rocky Mountains mtnsnake Campfire Ranger mtnsnake Campfire Ranger Joined: Mar 2013 Posts: 27,091 Colorado Rocky Mountains The Norse gods were christian. The vikings were christian, Many of the old stories are christian. The Sumatrans and Babylonians were christian. God is God. But God is not Allah. Allah is a false god.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... Robert_White #13722861 04/07/19 Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,857 Likes: 5 S SBTCO Campfire Tracker SBTCO Campfire Tracker S Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,857 Likes: 5 Considering the islamic invasion of Scandinavia and the rest of the world at present, I doubt very much Norse religion is going to cramp your style Mr. White. Bigger fish to fry if you look around. “Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them.” ― G. Orwell "Why can't men kill big game with the same cartridges women and kids use?" _Eileen Clarke "Unjust authority confers no obligation of obedience." - Alexander Hamilton

Re: Thor Odin and all that... SBTCO #13722865 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by SBTCO Considering the islamic invasion of Scandinavia and the rest of the world at present, I doubt very much Norse religion is going to cramp your style Mr. White. Bigger fish to fry if you look around. Scandinavia needs to reconnect with their Lutheran roots. Their minds are a globby mess of weakness , false guilt and white self loathing. True faith and true Grace makes men wise and brave and clear minded. Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.

Re: Thor Odin and all that... IZH27 #13722868 04/07/19 Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 R Robert_White OP Campfire Tracker OP Robert_White Campfire Tracker R Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,344 Originally Posted by IZH27 Do you adhere to Wesley’s doctrine of Christian perfection? Int the context of Ephesians 3, Paul's prayer... yes. But not the straw man Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven.