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#13742252 - 04/14/19 New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading  
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Just bought a 22/45 lite, replaced the trigger, removed the rail waiting for the maddmaccs mount and red dot, but I started shooting it and have realized that the barrel as shiny as it looks, holds lead like a bastard! I usually just run oily patches to clean rimfires, not this one, I’m shooting Remington Thunderbolts, because I have them, but this is the only firearm that I’ve shot that makes lead like this. I’ve emailed Ruger, just wondering if anyone else has seen similar? Had the pistol out about 4 times cleaned after each trip, it seems perfectly happy to tax each bullet that leaves it, to the point that accuracy diminished drastically. Anyone else seen anything similar? Thanks

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#13742318 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Nope...but I don't shoot Thunderbolts(in anything) and for a multitude of reasons. Congratulations?!?

Hint............


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#13742351 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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No leading issues with mine.


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#13742384 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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I’ve had nothing but problems in multiple pistols using Thunderbolts... switched ammo and the problems went away...


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#13742416 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Yes, it is the ammo. I like CCI over most.

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#13742424 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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What makes you think it's leading excessively?


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For the record, you pissed my wife off and she found you in about 4 seconds with a simple Google search. Knew your family, your kids schools, your address and phone numbers, the works.
#13743226 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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It ain't...it just boolit lube.

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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
#13743423 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Ammo would be the easy one, but I’ve shot a truckload of TB’s through countless other platforms? They aren’t the greatest, but I like I like the solid bullets on game, and again, I have them.

After the first outing I noticed a gob hanging out in the bore that CLP on a patch wouldn’t dislodge, a phosphor bronze brush with MPRO7 would break it up and get rid of it, and it continued that way. The fouling was so bad, I was able to actually push some lead away from the bore at the muzzle with my fingernail, and the brush ejects lead shards as it breaks up.

I’ll try some other ammo, but I can’t see the ammo being that bad?

Thanks for the help, doesn’t sound like there are any other pistols doing the same. Guess the Woodsman will have to eat all the TB’s😁

#13743655 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Are you sure it's lead?


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For the record, you pissed my wife off and she found you in about 4 seconds with a simple Google search. Knew your family, your kids schools, your address and phone numbers, the works.
#13743739 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: Big Stick]  
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Originally Posted by Big Stick
Nope...but I don't shoot Thunderbolts(in anything) and for a multitude of reasons. Congratulations?!?

Hint............

Thunderbolts are the biggest piece of crap ammo created


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#13744005 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Yep, it’s lead, enough that I was able to verify with my fingernail with the product hanging out the muzzle.

I can agree on TB’s not being the best, but I’m past 5,000 of them in everything I put them in, Winchester, Colt, Remington, Savage, S&W, Ruger, Anschutz, and a few others, all followed with a CLP patch to clean with no issues like this little Ruger is showing me.

I will try another brand next, but I am also going to see what the Kroil loosened up tonight from yesterday’s shooting, I’ll see if I can push a piece out in tact, it might be interesting?

Thanks again for the thoughts, hope this is the only one

#13744097 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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If you fool around on rimfirecentral very much, you will find your complaint of leading with Thunderbolts is VERY common, almost everyone has a complaint or twelve with the stuff. It's just crap.

Instead of shooting the cheapest crap you can find, try something a bit better. There are alternatives that do NOT lead like Thunderturds, in the same price range. Federal bulk box ammo usually shoots like crap in my rifles, but it's better than anything Remington produces now.

In the immortal words of Doc Campbell, on HeeHaw, "If it hurts when you do that, don't do that."


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#13744152 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Sound advice, thank you, I’m going to go look.

#13744326 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Somethings not right with this story. Rimfire bores "season" after a few shots and you don't need to clean them. In fact, they shoot worse after being cleaned. And if you're getting strips of lead out of the bore, then the bullets would be tumbling (sound like bees). My 22s shoot Thunderbolts as well as any other uber-cheap 22lr and I clean the bore in my 22lr pistol about once in a never.

#13744542 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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I came down from cleaning like a centerfire, to the oil patch and done. I didn’t hear the tumbling, but accuracy did go to crap, and holes were getting out of round. I haven’t had issues with the TB’s either, and I’ll keep shooting them, just seemed weird that all of a sudden this pistol decides to hate them?

#13745235 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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#13745241 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Well, maybe I’ll figure the picture posting out, but there is a pic of the lead in the image gallery

#13745286 - 04/15/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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#13745410 - 04/16/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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Got the email today, Ruger wants to look at their pistol.

#13745724 - 04/16/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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I can't view your pic but if bullets are keyholing perhaps you got a bad tube.

Will be interesting to see what Ruger says.


Originally Posted by Fireball2
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#13745843 - 04/16/19 Re: New Ruger Mark 4 22/45 Lite barrel leading [Re: akshooting]  
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A bad Ruger is rare but does happen. I have and have owned so many it is crazy. I still have an original Mark I and 2 Mark III pistols.
Once I bought a new Mark II and could not hit anything, then I seen the bullets were hitting the ground in front of me. Bore looked good and the crown looked good. Ruger sent me a new gun that shot lights out.
I won the Ohio state IHMSA shoot with my Ruger using WW Wildcat ammo. I even hit all the 25 yard shoot off chickens at 100 yards. It was a new gun with no sight settings at all but my spotter seen hits so I missed the first pig, turkey and ram out of 60 shots. I still have it and a stainless slabside that will poke one hole at 25 yards.
Rem made good ammo back then but changed the bullet. WW high velocity was super but the cheap Wildcats shot better. But all changed as speed was needed to make so many .22 rounds. Eley shot poor but RWS R50 ammo shot small holes but had little power left at 100 to knock steel down. Thunder Bolts never shot for me. Bulk WW gives all kinds of reports from cracks to thuds with many fails to even fire. Bulk Fed has a problem too. CCI is not quite as accurate as the old stuff but is consistent. Things have changed and back in the day it was nothing to shoot under 1" at 100 with a Marlin 39 with WW high speed. Hundreds of head shot squirrels with it. I head shot squirrels at 50 with the Mark II off hand. Thunder Bolts shoot better in a fire!

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