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An electric motorcycle?



110 mile range?

How many of those 110 miles are balls-to-the-wall flat out?

Most guys I know would be out of juice well before lunch.

Fake sound too?


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my shortest run would be 180 miles, so it would get me half way there..


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I guess we can add electric motorcycles to the list of things Texans can't grasp.


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If it sells more bikes, great. The more people ride, the safer the roads will get for all of us. It’s not for me, but I commute 28 miles a day on my bike. The range is plenty. I imagine the torque is a lot of fun too.

It will appeal more to daily riders and not so much to the weekend or monthly riders, or those who have to dress like a pirate.


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A high performance dirt bike that is quiet, very cool.



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Originally Posted by Barkoff
What is a Harley without a 2 cylinder rumble?


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Not for me. I like to hear a motor, and would need more range.

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Notice that the practicality of all things motorcycle stays completely unrecognized by the media?

Ever wonder why?


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Originally Posted by Barkoff
What is a Harley without a 2 cylinder rumble?


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Not for me. I like to hear a motor, and would need more range.





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A high performance dirt bike that is quiet, very cool.



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I’ll agree that dirt bike applications are a whole nother issue, with all that torque might even out-perform gasoline dirt bikes. But even a 200 - 300 mile range on a electric street bike would keep ya on a short leash given the long recharge times.


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I’ll agree that dirt bike applications are a whole nother issue, with all that torque might even out-perform gasoline dirt bikes. But even a 200 - 300 mile range on a electric street bike would keep ya on a short leash given the long recharge times.


A 200 mile range can get a lot of people to work without a recharge for two weeks.


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Originally Posted by deflave
Notice that the practicality of all things motorcycle stays completely unrecognized by the media?

Ever wonder why?



Because they ain’t all that practical?

Says me who didn’t own a car until my forties.


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Because they ain’t all that practical?

Says me who didn’t own a car until my forties.


Yeah but you're retarded.


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There's no point in trying to sell a practical motorcycle because there is no practical reason to own a motorcycle. It's purely an emotional decision. Do you need a 1700 cc V-Twin motor to ride to work? Or a 1400 cc race bike with lights that will tickle if not surpass 200 mph? Of course not but if we were looking for sensible we'd all be driving Honda Civics. How boring would that be? I hope this new Harley tempts some young people to try a motorcycle and live a little.


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What is a Harley without a 2 cylinder rumble?

............. Probably the sound of the future........ Sadly; for all of us dinosaurs......

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The bike lot at work today. Yeah, my bike is it. Mid 70s and overcast. Beautiful riding weather. You know who can't see the practical use of this new bike? The people who aren't riding their bikes. The people who have a bike just taking up space in the garage and aren't riding every day anyway. I'm in no hurry to switch to an electric bike, but I can see the practical use of it because I do ride every day.

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Originally Posted by klondike_mike
There's no point in trying to sell a practical motorcycle because there is no practical reason to own a motorcycle. It's purely an emotional decision. Do you need a 1700 cc V-Twin motor to ride to work? Or a 1400 cc race bike with lights that will tickle if not surpass 200 mph? Of course not but if we were looking for sensible we'd all be driving Honda Civics. How boring would that be? I hope this new Harley tempts some young people to try a motorcycle and live a little.


Total nonsense.


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The bike lot at work today. Yeah, my bike is it. Mid 70s and overcast. Beautiful riding weather. You know who can't see the practical use of this new bike? The people who aren't riding their bikes. The people who have a bike just taking up space in the garage and aren't riding every day anyway. I'm in no hurry to switch to an electric bike, but I can see the practical use of it because I do ride every day.

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Gorgeous bike regardless.


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The bike lot at work today. Yeah, my bike is it. Mid 70s and overcast. Beautiful riding weather. You know who can't see the practical use of this new bike? The people who aren't riding their bikes. The people who have a bike just taking up space in the garage and aren't riding every day anyway. I'm in no hurry to switch to an electric bike, but I can see the practical use of it because I do ride every day.

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Gorgeous bike regardless.


Thanks. This is another picture from work last week. I sent it to my son to torment him. He's in Afghanistan and I'm baby sitting for him. I try to ride his once or twice a week to keep the battery charged.

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I would be interested in electric vehicles and toys when they are functional and meet all my needs, including safely having the range I need to drive. I live in Wyoming and it is not uncommon to have 70+ miles between locations with services. If the batteries were not functioning at optimal level, I might not make it there. They are going to have to do better than that.

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Originally Posted by deflave

Wasn't aware that even existed. Thanks for posting that. A mountain bike, with better suspension that you don't have to pedal and goes 60 mph. I'd seen the zeros and a buddy has an electric trials bike, but I need one of those.



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Originally Posted by Oakster
I would be interested in electric vehicles and toys when they are functional and meet all my needs, including safely having the range I need to drive. I live in Wyoming and it is not uncommon to have 70+ miles between locations with services. If the batteries were not functioning at optimal level, I might not make it there. They are going to have to do better than that.


Sure they are, but that doesn't mean the majority of people who commute on a bike can't take advantage of the technology as it is. Electric bikes aren't being marketed for cross country trips any more than scooters are.


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Thanks. This is another picture from work last week. I sent it to my son to torment him. He's in Afghanistan and I'm baby sitting for him. I try to ride his once or twice a week to keep the battery charged.

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Oh wow.

That's a sharp bike. Is that the Scout Bobber?


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Originally Posted by Oakster
I would be interested in electric vehicles and toys when they are functional and meet all my needs, including safely having the range I need to drive. I live in Wyoming and it is not uncommon to have 70+ miles between locations with services. If the batteries were not functioning at optimal level, I might not make it there. They are going to have to do better than that.


This might come as a huge shock to you but electric motorcycles are in their infancy and most people don't live in Wy-fugking-oming.


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Thanks. This is another picture from work last week. I sent it to my son to torment him. He's in Afghanistan and I'm baby sitting for him. I try to ride his once or twice a week to keep the battery charged.

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Oh wow.

That's a sharp bike. Is that the Scout Bobber?


Yeah. Of the 16 months he's owned it, it's been at my house for at least 10 of them. I kinda feel bad that the tires are showing wear. I'll just tell him they were like that when he left.


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Hey, he wanted to go fugk off in Afghanistan so that's on him. Grin...

Does that bike do pretty decent on the highway?


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Hey, he wanted to go fugk off in Afghanistan so that's on him. Grin...

Does that bike do pretty decent on the highway?


I don't push it too hard since it's not mine, but it does go pretty well. Fast and fun in the curves, but not much for suspension. The motor is fun to wind out to 8000rpms.


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Hey, he wanted to go fugk off in Afghanistan so that's on him. Grin...

Does that bike do pretty decent on the highway?


I don't push it too hard since it's not mine, but it does go pretty well. Fast and fun in the curves, but not much for suspension. The motor is fun to wind out to 8000rpms.


Cool bike.


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That thing’s badass.


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Hey, he wanted to go fugk off in Afghanistan so that's on him. Grin...

Does that bike do pretty decent on the highway?


I don't push it too hard since it's not mine, but it does go pretty well. Fast and fun in the curves, but not much for suspension. The motor is fun to wind out to 8000rpms.


Cool bike.


The really cool part for me is having two bikes at home has allowed my daughter and I to ride together. She rides mine and I ride my sons. I guess when he comes home I'll have to buy her a bike.


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Wasn't aware that even existed. Thanks for posting that. A mountain bike, with better suspension that you don't have to pedal and goes 60 mph. I'd seen the zeros and a buddy has an electric trials bike, but I need one of those.


If I lived somewhere else I'd buy one.


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The really cool part for me is having two bikes at home has allowed my daughter and I to ride together. She rides mine and I ride my sons. I guess when he comes home I'll have to buy her a bike.


That is cool.

Buy her CB1000R and tell me what you don't like about it.

Thanks.


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The really cool part for me is having two bikes at home has allowed my daughter and I to ride together. She rides mine and I ride my sons. I guess when he comes home I'll have to buy her a bike.


That is cool.

Buy her CB1000R and tell me what you don't like about it.

Thanks.


She's way too much of a daredevil to turn loose with something like that.


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Fine.

The 650 then.


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I wonder if that time includes always burning the headlights?


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Fine.

The 650 then.


She's been riding for a couple of years, but never got her license. This year I told her she had to get it to ride on the highway, so she skipped class for 3 days to take the H-D MSF course. They took it on brand new street 500s. When it was over she said the course was fun but hated that underpowered bike. We are actually going to look at an 883 sportster for her, as she's more old school.

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I wonder if that time includes always burning the headlights?


Of course it does you stupid fugk.


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Originally Posted by Snyper
I wonder if that time includes always burning the headlights?


Probably. LEDs don't use that much power. Can't turn the lights off.


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A SPORTSTER?

Barf.

Glad you can spend time with your kids though.


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Fugk. Are we boycotting electric motorcycles?


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That thing is fuggin’ sweet!


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Fugk. Are we boycotting electric motorcycles?



It's for the best. The torque would probably jerk the bike right out from under some folks.


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5 minute video. How long does the battery last?

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Originally Posted by klondike_mike
There's no point in trying to sell a practical motorcycle because there is no practical reason to own a motorcycle. It's purely an emotional decision. Do you need a 1700 cc V-Twin motor to ride to work? Or a 1400 cc race bike with lights that will tickle if not surpass 200 mph? Of course not but if we were looking for sensible we'd all be driving Honda Civics. How boring would that be? I hope this new Harley tempts some young people to try a motorcycle and live a little.


They’ve been trying to sell “practical” motorcycles for a long time, since before the 650 Honda SilverWing at least. The latest attempt is the Bergman (??). Sales of these various incarnations have always been flat.


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The thing I have against the 883 is that it’s geared lower than the 1200 in every gear, seems like it’d be sort of busy at highway speeds.


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Originally Posted by Kodiakisland
If it sells more bikes, great. The more people ride, the safer the roads will get for all of us. It’s not for me, but I commute 28 miles a day on my bike. The range is plenty. I imagine the torque is a lot of fun too.

It will appeal more to daily riders and not so much to the weekend or monthly riders, or those who have to dress like a pirate.
For short runs to the grocery store or easy commuter purposes, maybe.. For anyone that actually RIDES (as in: 200-600 miles/day or a long, 5-10 day trip) they're about as worthless as a screen door on a submarine.. Range + time to charge = severe limitations..

IMHO HD should concentrate on what they do best - and stay away from any such electric bike..


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The thing I have against the 883 is that it’s geared lower than the 1200 in every gear, seems like it’d be sort of busy at highway speeds.

I can see no reason to get an 883, when a 1200 on the same platform, is available. Had a 1200 2007 Sportster. Nice bike, inexpensive to operate, entertaining. Currently on a 2009 Lowrider. Still adjusting! Figured I was done going fast. Spent a whole bunch of years dragging knees. The cops didn't use to be so para-military then. Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time. Run out of gas on a ride, you're up and running in a relatively short ride. Electric? I guess you have to go back later and collect it.

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IMHO HD should concentrate on what they do best - and stay away from any such electric bike..


Agreed. The goose that laid the golden egg, our generation, is passing away, meanwhile I feel for all the dealers who were compelled to invest in those friggin’ Harley superstores.

In the eyes of the public Harleys ironically have become “old fat guy bikes”, if they can keep their roots alive, eventually they will be rediscovered.

Right now when I step into a Harley mall I see Sportsters and “Streets”, both too small for all-day passengers, then it jumps up to friggin 800+lb motorized sofas that most folks couldn’t pick up by themselves if they fell over. I wish there were a range of bikes in between.

Most damning in my mind tho is that the dealerships will not work on bikes over a certain age, proof-positive IMHO that Harley has lost its soul.


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The thing I have against the 883 is that it’s geared lower than the 1200 in every gear, seems like it’d be sort of busy at highway speeds.

I can see no reason to get an 883, when a 1200 on the same platform, is available. Had a 1200 2007 Sportster. Nice bike, inexpensive to operate, entertaining. Currently on a 2009 Lowrider. Still adjusting! Figured I was done going fast. Spent a whole bunch of years dragging knees. The cops didn't use to be so para-military then. Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time. Run out of gas on a ride, you're up and running in a relatively short ride. Electric? I guess you have to go back later and collect it.

OR just pay attention to battery charge level and not try to go farther than you have the electrons for. Even gas bikes have fuel gauges now. And my 2009 HD softail even has a miles remaining countdown display - they can do the same thing with battery state.

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IMHO HD should concentrate on what they do best - and stay away from any such electric bike..


Agreed. The goose that laid the golden egg, our generation, is passing away, meanwhile I feel for all the dealers who were compelled to invest in those friggin’ Harley superstores.

In the eyes of the public Harleys ironically have become “old fat guy bikes”, if they can keep their roots alive, eventually they will be rediscovered.

Right now when I step into a Harley mall I see Sportsters and “Streets”, both too small for all-day passengers, then it jumps up to friggin 800+lb motorized sofas that most folks couldn’t pick up by themselves if they fell over. I wish there were a range of bikes in between.
HD actually has added several models to that 'mid-range' area over the last couple years.. And more and more younger riders are gravitating to those - at least, that's what I see when I drop in to the biggest dealer in the area (St. Paul HD). I had an HD Switchback for about three years. Smaller, lighter, but rode pretty rough (Dyna suspension).. Traded it last year for a Street Glide. MUCHO better (full touring suspension).. But then I tend to ride anywhere from 100-300 miles/day when the weather permits and I don't get tired/stiff from its use..

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Most damning in my mind tho is that the dealerships will not work on bikes over a certain age, proof-positive IMHO that Harley has lost its soul.
That's not limited to HD.. Few dealers will work with any bike over 12-15 years old, if for no other reason than parts may not be available.. That's the main reason I sold my '87 Kawasaki Voyager 1300-6 after 18 years of solid, reliable operation.. I knew that if something finally gave way I'd not be able to get it fixed.. It was time to get rid of it.. Helluva bike, though...especially at that time..


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For anyone that actually RIDES (as in: 200-600 miles/day or a long, 5-10 day trip) they're about as worthless as a screen door on a submarine.. Range + time to charge = severe limitations..

IMHO HD should concentrate on what they do best - and stay away from any such electric bike..


600 miles a day is one helluva commute.


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“Parts not available”?

For a Harley?

See, they sold their soul, lost their way, switched over to building disposable bikes, just like that other nation who’s name I won’t invoke just now.

Meanwhile it’s gotta be depressing to be an HD dealer; ya had to build a mall, clean used Harley’s are being sold at giveaway prices, your customer demographic is literally dying off, and first they were sending you “Streets” to sell, and now they’re gonna send you ebikes?

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Harley's may not be as popular as they were in the 90's but I'm sure they'll be just fine.

Lots of dealers won't work on old schit. It's not unique to Harley or motorcycles for that matter. It's mostly dependent upon what kind of person owns the dealership or runs the service department.


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Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time. Run out of gas on a ride, you're up and running in a relatively short ride. Electric? I guess you have to go back later and collect it.


I don't know where you live but Teslas are about as common as Lexus around here.


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Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time.


Aye, there's the rub, and when they finally do figure out efficient battery technology, these things are gonna be ruling the world anyway.....



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Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time. Run out of gas on a ride, you're up and running in a relatively short ride. Electric? I guess you have to go back later and collect it.


I don't know where you live but Teslas are about as common as Lexus around here.



Oh, a gated community.....


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Oh, a gated community.....


Guess what happens if you leave your vehicle parked with a flat tire?


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Oh, a gated community.....


Guess what happens if you leave your vehicle parked with a flat tire?

Do they even have spare tires in a Teslas or Lexus?

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Do they even have spare tires in a Teslas or Lexus?


I know Lexus do.

Never ridden in a Tesla.


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Oh, a gated community.....


Guess what happens if you leave your vehicle parked with a flat tire?


Someone drives by your house and shoots at it?

Around here they drive by the HOA and shoot at that instead, its better that way.


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Someone drives by your house and shoots at it?

Around here they drive by the HOA and shoot at that instead, its better that way.


No.

They impound your POS and make you pay a few thousand dollars to get it back.

Short way of saying, dick heads like you are the reason gated communities and HOA's exist.


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For anyone that actually RIDES (as in: 200-600 miles/day or a long, 5-10 day trip) they're about as worthless as a screen door on a submarine.. Range + time to charge = severe limitations..

IMHO HD should concentrate on what they do best - and stay away from any such electric bike..


600 miles a day is one helluva commute.
Most I've done in one day was 735.. On the right bike, it's a piece of cake.. On the wrong one - it's a trip to the chiropractor.. laugh


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I'm about to do 1500 in mid-May. Not in one day though.


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“Parts not available”?

For a Harley?

See, they sold their soul, lost their way, switched over to building disposable bikes, just like that other nation who’s name I won’t invoke just now.

Meanwhile it’s gotta be depressing to be an HD dealer; ya had to build a mall, clean used Harley’s are being sold at giveaway prices, your customer demographic is literally dying off, and first they were sending you “Streets” to sell, and now they’re gonna send you ebikes?

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I'm about to do 1500 in mid-May. Not in one day though.
Last year was one of my least driven years on bikes....about 6,000 overall.. I usually get in somewhere around the 8,500 miles done by October 15.. Two years ago, for the Memorial Day ride, I had 3,000 done in 8-9 days... The worst was the day I left home.. For 2 1/2 days the weather was 53F and rain.. Not a fun time...but necessary.. smile


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Someone drives by your house and shoots at it?

Around here they drive by the HOA and shoot at that instead, its better that way.


No.

They impound your POS and make you pay a few thousand dollars to get it back.


Oh crap, around here “They” is gonna have problems.....

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Short way of saying, dick heads like you are the reason gated communities and HOA's exist.


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No flat tires in my driveway Bub, and both my vehicles run, grass is cut too wink

We do however have some of them nasty portable driveway hoops, and kids playing in the street.

OMG, I even put up a purple martin colony in my front yard shocked

Lost a few to BB guns but hey, these are ‘hood martins Yo....


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I got about 2K in the past month. And that's just running around the suburbs and city.

My brother drove his bike here in January and then flew home and now wants it back. So... I'm gonna deliver.


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I got about 2K in the past month. And that's just running around the suburbs and city.

My brother drove his bike here in January and then flew home and now wants it back. So... I'm gonna deliver.


Small World, I’m fixing to put about 2,000 on mine too wink


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I got about 2K in the past month. And that's just running around the suburbs and city.

My brother drove his bike here in January and then flew home and now wants it back. So... I'm gonna deliver.
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No flat tires in my driveway Bub, and both my vehicles run, grass is cut too wink



Yeah it sounds like a great area to have a family.


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I got about 2K in the past month. And that's just running around the suburbs and city.

My brother drove his bike here in January and then flew home and now wants it back. So... I'm gonna deliver.


Which bike is that? Have you decided what you're going to buy?


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and a KLR, but every time I get to feeling like a stud all I gotta do is google “Iron Butt Rally”.....


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The thing I have against the 883 is that it’s geared lower than the 1200 in every gear, seems like it’d be sort of busy at highway speeds.

I can see no reason to get an 883, when a 1200 on the same platform, is available. Had a 1200 2007 Sportster. Nice bike, inexpensive to operate, entertaining. Currently on a 2009 Lowrider. Still adjusting! Figured I was done going fast. Spent a whole bunch of years dragging knees. The cops didn't use to be so para-military then. Electric cars really haven't caught on yet, primarily due to range limitations and down time. Run out of gas on a ride, you're up and running in a relatively short ride. Electric? I guess you have to go back later and collect it.

OR just pay attention to battery charge level and not try to go farther than you have the electrons for. Even gas bikes have fuel gauges now. And my 2009 HD softail even has a miles remaining countdown display - they can do the same thing with battery state.

Down time is still too long, to recharge.

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No flat tires in my driveway Bub, and both my vehicles run, grass is cut too wink



Yeah it sounds like a great area to have a family.


There are several great families here, see, it’s all about the parents......


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I got about 2K in the past month. And that's just running around the suburbs and city.

My brother drove his bike here in January and then flew home and now wants it back. So... I'm gonna deliver.


Which bike is that? Have you decided what you're going to buy?


That's his BMW 1600 GTL.

I'm pretty set on the KTM 1290 Adventurer. But I'm not buying one until I have a garage again. We just got a second offer on our house so we should be done renting pretty soon.


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There are several great families here, see, it’s all about the parents......


So today, it's not the ghetto?


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There are several great families here, see, it’s all about the parents......


So today, it's not the ghetto?


No, it’s the West Side of San Antonio, always has been.

You might say “ghetto” because you live in a gated community.


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Oh ok.



West Point graduates and cons serving life terms, all from the same high school. It happens more’n you prob’ly think.


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Oh ok.



West Point graduates and cons serving life terms, all from the same high school. It happens more’n you prob’ly think.


I think what happens is you live in a schit hole that you claim is dangerous but really isn't.

It's just a schit hole.


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No, it’s the West Side cool

....and we’ve had kids hauled out of classes on felony murder warrants and others graduating from big name Universities.

The kid who got shot on my street broke into a house but that was years ago, and nobody likes a thief, and the drive by was on next door, not us.

......Did I ever actually say my neighborhood was “dangerous”?

It’s actuall pretty safe....... .......most of the time grin


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What was untrue?


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What was untrue?


Your stories.


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What was untrue?


Your stories.


Nope all true, as written. Stop in some time on that KTM when you get tired.

The West Side is like a Hispanic version of the Ozarks, without the woods.


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OK l’ll fess ‘up, we’ve only had four murder warrants served on campus since I’ve been here, can’t even begin to recall how many college graduates. We did have a fleeing felon shot and killed on campus several years back, but he weren’t a student so that doesn’t count.

My very favorite story is the guy who came on campus wearing a ski mask and laid out the kid who had date-raped his little sister with a crow bar.

Ski mask guy was never caught.


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The police there shoot fleeing felons? What was his felony? Was he armed? How did he get onto your campus?

A convicted rapist attended school there? Was he a minor? How is this information known? If somebody is wearing a ski mask, how do you affirm their identity?


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The police there shoot fleeing felons?


They do if they drop a weapon and stop to pick it up. Fortunately this happened at night, on a weekend. The guy was running from the Cops, across campus just happened to be the shortest route from Point A to Point B at that moment in time.

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No, he was never charged, nor was the incident reported.

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How is this information known? If somebody is wearing a ski mask, how do you affirm their identity?


If the kids trust you they will tell you, this was before cameras and happened in the student parking lot, as school was getting out. The kid who got laid out wouldn’t talk.

These sort of stories ain’t unusual for big-city schools, it’s not like I’m special.


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it’s not like I’m special.


Debatable.


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If the kids trust you they will tell you, this was before cameras and happened in the student parking lot, as school was getting out. The kid who got laid out wouldn’t talk.



So you were told the name of the individual that assaulted a student with a crowbar on school grounds but never reported it?

Did the thought ever occur to you that perhaps the girl in question wasn't telling the truth and that attempted murder took place on an innocent teenager?

Are you 12 years old?


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OF COURSE I reported it, to the Admin and the Campus LEO’s.

The Cops already knew, see, the kids trusted them too, as they will if you have good Cops.


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Did the thought ever occur to you that perhaps the girl in question wasn't telling the truth and that attempted murder took place on an innocent teenager?


Knowing the girl, and the guy who got laid out..... actually, no.


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OF COURSE I reported it, to the Admin and the Campus LEO’s.

The Cops already knew, see, the kids trusted them too, as they will if you have good Cops.


So they knew who assaulted the juvenile with the crowbar but chose not to arrest. No probable cause I guess.


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Knowing the girl, and the guy who got laid out..... actually, no.


Such wisdom.

To bad we can't clone you and put a Birdwatcher in each squad car.


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OF COURSE I reported it, to the Admin and the Campus LEO’s.

The Cops already knew, see, the kids trusted them too, as they will if you have good Cops.


So they knew who assaulted the juvenile with the crowbar but chose not to arrest. No probable cause I guess.



I dunno, our Cops would have handed it off to SAPD, and they woulda taken it from there. I dunno who they interviewed or didn’t.

I woulda thought street Cops know stuff all the time, but either can’t build a case or have other priorities but I dunno.

Ain’t you in Law Enforcement?

(Besides being the enforcement officer of the local HOA I mean grin )


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Now you're talkin! I see a test ride in my future...


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(Besides being the enforcement officer of the local HOA I mean grin )


Yep.

And my investigative know-how tells me you're full of fugking schit.


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Now you're talkin! I see a test ride in my future...


Oh yeah.


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(Besides being the enforcement officer of the local HOA I mean grin )


Yep.

And my investigative know-how tells me you're full of fugking schit.


You seem strangely detached from reality. Anyhoo, the invite stands.


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OK l’ll fess ‘up, we’ve only had four murder warrants served on campus since I’ve been here, can’t even begin to recall how many college graduates. We did have a fleeing felon shot and killed on campus several years back, but he weren’t a student so that doesn’t count.

My very favorite story is the guy who came on campus wearing a ski mask and laid out the kid who had date-raped his little sister with a crow bar.

Ski mask guy was never caught.


Maybe a rewrite?

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Ya, and thinking on it, the way it was told to me it was a tire iron.


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher


You seem strangely detached from reality.


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Since I mostly ride bicycles to work nowadays I got a couple of old cars that sit unused in the driveway from one week to the next. When I DO want to use one an underinflated tire somewhere or other is frequent.

I got tired of getting all sweaty whaling away with my bicycle pump every time this happens so I tried one of them 12V powered portable pumps, figured it'd be just the ticket.



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No flat tires in my driveway Bub, and both my vehicles run, grass is cut too wink



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LMAO.


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One of my favorite street bikes I've ridden was a buddies old BMW R90. Mid 70's I think. Just a cool old motorcycle. When ya hammer the throttle you can feel the bike rotate to one side from the inertia of the crank.

Harley does nothing for me. They look as bad as they did a decade or two, or three, ago. That Indian Scout is pretty cool though.

I like the idea of a lot of the smaller naked bikes. The little Husky's seem pretty cool. You may end up looking like Magilla Gorilla riding the thing though.

https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en/vitpilen/


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Good Lord! You’re actually worked-up about this.

How many years ago was that?

“Under inflated” as in around 20psi, looking a tad more bulgier than usual, flat is a whole diff’rent ballgame.

I have to explain this?


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LMAO.


....uh oh, here come the Flavettes.....


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Good Lord! You’re actually worked-up about this.

How many years ago was that?

“Under inflated” as in around 20psi, looking a tad more bulgier than usual, flat is a whole diff’rent ballgame.

I have to explain this?


I'm not worked up at all.

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Uh-huh.

No you don't.


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One of my favorite street bikes I've ridden was a buddies old BMW R90. Mid 70's I think. Just a cool old motorcycle. When ya hammer the throttle you can feel the bike rotate to one side from the inertia of the crank.

Harley does nothing for me. They look as bad as they did a decade or two, or three, ago. That Indian Scout is pretty cool though.

I like the idea of a lot of the smaller naked bikes. The little Husky's seem pretty cool. You may end up looking like Magilla Gorilla riding the thing though.

https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en/vitpilen/





I really like those Husquarvana's. I believe that 701 has the same motor as my Duke. Might be the same bike pretty much.

My dad recently found one of those old R90's and missed the boat.


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A big single like that has to be fun.


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It tears pretty good.


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On my KLR650 I was amazed at the powerband they wrung out of a carbureted thumper. Not in straight line acceleration, the detuned motor was always regarded as something of a dog, but that bike could torque through the dirt AND pull 80 on the interstate all day long, all while being one of the most trouble-free bikes out there, as well as among the most inexpensive.


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Which Harley dealer told you they wouldn't service old bikes?


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Which Harley dealer told you they wouldn't service old bikes?


Read it here, read it elsewhere on the ‘net.

Heard it from a Harley-riding friend this past weekend.

I would be happy to hear it wasn’t always true.

I’m old enough to remember Shovelheads and the people that rode ‘em, right before the first Evo motors arrived. Sure they were maintenance-intensive, but they carried tool kits and spares. Decided on rebuild times by running a finger in the pipes to check the carbon.

I’ve always wanted a bike you could keep forever, back then Shovelheads were one of the ones that might.


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Which Harley dealer told you they wouldn't service old bikes?


Read it here, read it elsewhere on the ‘net.

Heard it from a Harley-riding friend this past weekend.

I would be happy to hear it wasn’t always true.

I’m old enough to remember Shovelheads and the people that rode ‘em, right before the first Evo motors arrived. Sure they were maintenance-intensive, but they carried tool kits and spares. Decided on rebuild times by running a finger in the pipes to check the carbon.

I’ve always wanted a bike you could keep forever, back then Shovelheads were one of the ones that might.


I figured.


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You know different?

Here ya go.....

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/674496-is-your-bike-over-ten-years-old.html

Something I need to look into before buying.



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Maybe not all, but most franchised dealers refuse to work on even their brand that is over 15 years old. The Jap dealers are more adamant about this, but not far off is Harley.

It ain't parts availability, it's lawyer BS pertaining liability issues with a unit that's served past it's service life.

This is the word I got when way too many were bringing their junk to me to work on when I was working at an independent cycle repair shop just a couple years ago.

Now, I know I'm kinda new here, but I have to ask; flave, have you actually ever ridden a motorcycle? You've mentioned so many times that if you lived here or there that you would buy a bike. Surely there is a brand/model that would suite your local.

I'm here to help.

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You know different?

Here ya go.....

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touring-models/674496-is-your-bike-over-ten-years-old.html

Something I need to look into before buying.




That was hilarious. Thanks for posting.

Not that it matters anyway. I'm sure a veteran motorcyclist like yourself would have little need for service departments.


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Now, I know I'm kinda new here, but I have to ask; flave, have you actually ever ridden a motorcycle?


No.


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Maybe not all, but most franchised dealers refuse to work on even their brand that is over 15 years old. The Jap dealer are more adamant about this, but not far off from Harley.


LMFAO.


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I had a ‘92 KLR last serviced/repaired at the local Kawasaki dealer in 2011, but over that span of time the only changes to the bike had been cosmetic.

Sorta ironic, the longest running unchanged continuous-production motorcycles might be the Honda and Suzuki dual purpose 650 thumpers. Once I met two Honda 650 dual sport riders from Oregon down in Oaxaca, Mexico. Along the way they had rebuilt one of their bike’s motors in a motel parking lot.

I was impressed.


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I had a ‘92 KLR last serviced/repaired at the local Kawasaki dealer in 2011, but over that span of time the only changes to the bike had been cosmetic.

Sorta ironic, the longest running unchanged continuous-production motorcycles might be the Honda and Suzuki dual purpose 650 thumpers. Once I met two Honda 650 dual sport riders from Oregon down in Oaxaca, Mexico. Along the way they had rebuilt one of their bike’s motors in a motel parking lot.

I was impressed.


Wow!

Did the two people really tell you that story?!?!?


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Not that it matters anyway. I'm sure a veteran motorcyclist like yourself would have little need for service departments.




Depends on the bike, depends on the miles. Age 27 until past 35, motorcycles were my only wheels, put in most of my 250,000+ miles during that time. Average service interval on my bikes was -6,000 miles. Back tire and chain life, again dependent upon the bike, was around 10,000 miles.

This is some reasons among many that no one should ever buy a motorcycle to save money.


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I had a ‘92 KLR last serviced/repaired at the local Kawasaki dealer in 2011, but over that span of time the only changes to the bike had been cosmetic.

Sorta ironic, the longest running unchanged continuous-production motorcycles might be the Honda and Suzuki dual purpose 650 thumpers. Once I met two Honda 650 dual sport riders from Oregon down in Oaxaca, Mexico. Along the way they had rebuilt one of their bike’s motors in a motel parking lot.

I was impressed.


Wow!

Did the two people really tell you that story?!?!?


Yes, and their beat-up bikes in the courtyard of their little back-street hotel in Oaxaca made me envious as all get-out. I had flown in like ordinary folk.


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Sounds like you’re ready to buy a bike and move to Oxaca.

Don’t forget your bicycle pump.


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Sounds like you’re ready to buy a bike and move to Oxaca.

Don’t forget your bicycle pump.


There’s a group bicycle ride in downtown San Antonio, up to 300+ bikes, every week. When I go I hang around at the back, helping the total newbies with their flats/adjustments/breakdowns etc.....

Right before I left on that trip this past weekend, I took the bicycle pump out of the car. I was wishing I hadn’t when I took that neglected donut out of the trunk, it’s hard to find a gas station air pump that will go 35psi, let alone 65.


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The bike lot at work today. Yeah, my bike is it. Mid 70s and overcast. Beautiful riding weather. You know who can't see the practical use of this new bike? The people who aren't riding their bikes. The people who have a bike just taking up space in the garage and aren't riding every day anyway. I'm in no hurry to switch to an electric bike, but I can see the practical use of it because I do ride every day.

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Gorgeous bike regardless.


Thanks. This is another picture from work last week. I sent it to my son to torment him. He's in Afghanistan and I'm baby sitting for him. I try to ride his once or twice a week to keep the battery charged.

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I’m sure their time with you teaches more than you could ever know.


Well, they sometimes learn how to change a tire anyhow. I do it because the alternative is to be an old broke divorced guy sitting at home, instead I’m an old broke divorced guy who has some hot, tattooed, in-shape young women with sex in their eyes smiling and waving at him.

Of course, in the highly unlikely event that they had the hots for an old broke divorced guy, I would prob’ly get winded and maybe have a cardiac between second and third, let alone hit a home run.

Actually what disturbs me is the number of single adults in their twenties and thirties with no kids. That is what the decline in birth rates across the West looks like on the ground.


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I’m sure their time with you teaches more than you could ever know.


Well, they sometimes learn how to change a tire anyhow. I do it because the alternative is to be an old broke divorced guy sitting at home, instead I’m an old broke divorced guy who has some hot, tattooed, in-shape young women with sex in their eyes smiling and waving at him.

Of course, in the highly unlikely event that they had the hots for an old broke divorced guy, I would prob’ly get winded and maybe have a cardiac between second and third, let alone hit a home run.

Actually what disturbs me is the number of single adults in their twenties and thirties with no kids. That is what the decline in birth rates across the West looks like on the ground.


1.) Seek help.

2.) How many kids did you father before you hit 30?


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2.) How many kids did you father before you hit 30?


Just one, but you’ll agree I’m different from the norm.

It’s the mindset of the women that’s different now, which is why the collective West is commiting demographic suicide.


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1.) Seek help.


I might if I had moved of my own free will into a neighborhood where they can charge you “thousands of dollars” and tow away your car over a flat tire in your driveway.

Sounds like a sort of Hell to me.


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1.) Seek help.


I might if I had moved of my own free will into a neighborhood where they can charge you “thousands of dollars” and tow away your car over a flat tire in your driveway.

Sounds like a sort of Hell to me.


I think you're starting to get it.


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We got a house down the street for sale.


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I saw a guy with a battery powered bicycle. He had fabricated a very small trailer. In the trailer he had a very small generator to recharge his bicycle battery,

Harley is just trying to stay in business. The V-Twins just aren't selling enough to keep them in business.


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One of my favorite street bikes I've ridden was a buddies old BMW R90. Mid 70's I think. Just a cool old motorcycle. When ya hammer the throttle you can feel the bike rotate to one side from the inertia of the crank.

Harley does nothing for me. They look as bad as they did a decade or two, or three, ago. That Indian Scout is pretty cool though.

I like the idea of a lot of the smaller naked bikes. The little Husky's seem pretty cool. You may end up looking like Magilla Gorilla riding the thing though.

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We got a house down the street for sale.


Hope the buyer's like retards and bicycle pumps and drive-by's and great families and streets that are dangerous until they're not depending on the conversation that day.


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I saw a guy with a battery powered bicycle. He had fabricated a very small trailer. In the trailer he had a very small generator to recharge his bicycle battery,

Harley is just trying to stay in business. The V-Twins just aren't selling enough to keep them in business.


Uhhh...

What?


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I believe Harley stills holds 50-60% of all big cruiser sales in the US.

They're not going away any time soon. Electric bikes or not.


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One of my favorite street bikes I've ridden was a buddies old BMW R90. Mid 70's I think. Just a cool old motorcycle. When ya hammer the throttle you can feel the bike rotate to one side from the inertia of the crank.

Harley does nothing for me. They look as bad as they did a decade or two, or three, ago. That Indian Scout is pretty cool though.

I like the idea of a lot of the smaller naked bikes. The little Husky's seem pretty cool. You may end up looking like Magilla Gorilla riding the thing though.

https://www.husqvarna-motorcycles.com/en/vitpilen/







Oh yeah. How much is that '97 Indian Scout worth now? Oh that's right. Not worth schit. They went out of business.. again. My '97 Heritage Springer is worth more now than it was the day I bought it.

Dream on , Harley bashers. Dream on. It's an American company that's been around since the turn of the century. Oh yeah, that other century.

Reminds me of a bunch of liberals talking about how America never was great.


What ‘97 Indian Scout are you talking about? Never even heard of one? Didn't see one posted?

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I believe Harley stills holds 50-60% of all big cruiser sales in the US.

Yes, but that market is going away, the new generation is not buying them. Times are changing and Harley does to seek other markets.


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There's no point in trying to sell a practical motorcycle because there is no practical reason to own a motorcycle. It's purely an emotional decision. Do you need a 1700 cc V-Twin motor to ride to work? Or a 1400 cc race bike with lights that will tickle if not surpass 200 mph? Of course not but if we were looking for sensible we'd all be driving Honda Civics. How boring would that be? I hope this new Harley tempts some young people to try a motorcycle and live a little.


They’ve been trying to sell “practical” motorcycles for a long time, since before the 650 Honda SilverWing at least. The latest attempt is the Bergman (??). Sales of these various incarnations have always been flat.


Exactly. When I worked in a motorcycle dealership back in the 80's we couldn't give away a KZ400. Probably the very definition of practical in the greater Boston area. Kawasaki would only let us order Ninja 900's and 600's if we ordered a quantity of KZ400's. How about the Honda Nighthawk 700? It was an inline 4 cylinder with hydraulic lifters, electronic ignition and shaft drive. Probably the most trouble free practical motorcycle of the era but a real slug on the sales floor while kids were lining up to buy Hurricanes. If a factory wants to sell bikes they have to realize that practical is the death knell and instead stir the customer's emotions. Harley needs to push the performance capabilities of electric bikes. I still hope it will draw in the younger riders but when people are shopping for a Harley they want a Huge Harley. If that wasn't the case the Kansas City Sportster factory would still be operating.


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The H-D Street 750 apparently sells really well in the Far East....

https://www.bookmotorcycletours.com/news/best-selling-motorcycles-2017

I’m thinking these are made in India.


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OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur. Harley management knows this and is trying to find another market.

I am in Kalifornia and half the Harley dealerships of 20 years ago are out of business. There are all kinds of big V-Twins on used market for cheap as compared to a few years ago when all the rich urban duds wanted one, so they could dress up and play biker on the weekends. Their girlfriends looked hot in their shinny black chaps.


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Hope the buyer's like retards and bicycle pumps and drive-by's and great families and streets that are dangerous until they're not depending on the conversation that day.


Drive-by next door, drug sales doen the street and yet I don’t gotta lock my door or my car, and a kid from the next street graduated from college with an Engineering Degree.


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OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur.


I’m living in the past, there’s always been the hard core, men and their women, who simply loved their Harley’s. More than an image, it’s a lifestyle.

I expect those people are still there.

I knew a few old guys back then that were Uber cool, nothing to prove, not violent, not criminal, no colors, just bikers.


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Hope the buyer's like retards and bicycle pumps and drive-by's and great families and streets that are dangerous until they're not depending on the conversation that day.


Drive-by next door, drug sales doen the street and yet I don’t gotta lock my door or my car, and a kid from the next street graduated from college with an Engineering Degree.



LMFAO.

Try on somebody else man.

You and I both know you're a fugking liar.


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Yes, but that market is going away, the new generation is not buying them. Times are changing and Harley does to seek other markets.


Uhhh.

Ok.


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If you want to see what the H-D market is like,..stick one up on Craigslist.


You gotta give 'em away right now don't ya?


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If you want to see what the H-D market is like,..stick one up on Craigslist.


You gotta five 'em away right now don't ya?


Well,.....you won't need to sit by the phone.

I think HD's are pretty much a Boomer toy,...and the Boomers are getting past the motorcycle age.

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A lot of young men who are at "peak motorcycle" age don't even know how to drive a stick shift car.

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A lot of young men who are at "peak motorcycle" age don't even know how to drive a stick shift car.


My brother says the same thing and I think that's a valid point.

If you can't drive a stick, a motorcycle has to be a little scary. Especially if it weighs 700lbs.


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


Oh brother.


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


So the latest technology is for pussies. How you on the internet, you pussy.

Funny how some of you are offended by an electric bike. Makes me really wonder why.

You all do know that these are marketed and designed for commuters, right? How hard is that to understand? Of course, round here all the H-D owners keep them inthe garage and aren't interested in commuting on a bike anyway. The bike lot at work today was devoid of H-Ds again. I guess they're saving them up for those weekend fair weather days. Or maybe H-D owners are too busy hitting the open road to work?

Personally, I don't think this will be a success because of the price. A commuter bike needs to be economical. $30K is about 3 times as much as it should be.


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H-D is trying to make a hail Mary pass with the electric motorcycle. The technology isn't ready. The problem H-D has, is their name is associated with big twin cruisers. Any other type of bike they might want to produce is already being made by somebody else so they would have to compete in an established market.

A lot of the young men I see getting involved with motorcycles are going for the adventure type bikes. Some are still buying sport bikes. But sport bike ergonomics get old pretty quick,...and a lot of manufacturers are offering high performance motorcycles that can actually be ridden.

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I brought it home with me,...went back and picked up the Ducati later. The Ducati didn't get ridden much after that,..so I sold it.

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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


So the latest technology is for pussies. How you on the internet, you pussy.

Funny how some of you are offended by an electric bike. Makes me really wonder why.

You all do know that these are marketed and designed for commuters, right? How hard is that to understand? Of course, round here all the H-D owners keep them inthe garage and aren't interested in commuting on a bike anyway. The bike lot at work today was devoid of H-Ds again. I guess they're saving them up for those weekend fair weather days.

Im not offended. Are you offended?


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


So the latest technology is for pussies. How you on the internet, you pussy.

Funny how some of you are offended by an electric bike. Makes me really wonder why.

You all do know that these are marketed and designed for commuters, right? How hard is that to understand? Of course, round here all the H-D owners keep them inthe garage and aren't interested in commuting on a bike anyway. The bike lot at work today was devoid of H-Ds again. I guess they're saving them up for those weekend fair weather days.

Im not offended. Are you offended?


You can read my posts on here and see that I'm clearly not. I'm also not saying anyone that has a bike different than mine must be a pussy. I'm for more people riding whatever.


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


So the latest technology is for pussies. How you on the internet, you pussy.

Funny how some of you are offended by an electric bike. Makes me really wonder why.

You all do know that these are marketed and designed for commuters, right? How hard is that to understand? Of course, round here all the H-D owners keep them inthe garage and aren't interested in commuting on a bike anyway. The bike lot at work today was devoid of H-Ds again. I guess they're saving them up for those weekend fair weather days.

Im not offended. Are you offended?


You can read my posts on here and see that I'm clearly not. I'm also not saying anyone that has a bike different than mine must be a pussy. I'm for more people riding whatever.

Ok. Glad you didn’t get butt hurt or chafed twot.


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About half the young men are puzzies. These electric motorcycles are proof.


So the latest technology is for pussies. How you on the internet, you pussy.

Funny how some of you are offended by an electric bike. Makes me really wonder why.

You all do know that these are marketed and designed for commuters, right? How hard is that to understand? Of course, round here all the H-D owners keep them inthe garage and aren't interested in commuting on a bike anyway. The bike lot at work today was devoid of H-Ds again. I guess they're saving them up for those weekend fair weather days.

Im not offended. Are you offended?


You can read my posts on here and see that I'm clearly not. I'm also not saying anyone that has a bike different than mine must be a pussy. I'm for more people riding whatever.

Ok. Glad you didn’t get butt hurt or chafed twot.


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Hope the buyer's like retards and bicycle pumps and drive-by's and great families and streets that are dangerous until they're not depending on the conversation that day.


Drive-by next door, drug sales doen the street and yet I don’t gotta lock my door or my car, and a kid from the next street graduated from college with an Engineering Degree.



LMFAO.

Try on somebody else man.

You and I both know you're a fugking liar.


Nope, all true. If we meet on the fishing trip you can judge my character face to face

On the flat tire issue; in your gated community, I’m sure you got a week or so and then you get a sternly worded letter from the HOA, ‘nother week the tow truck arrives.

On my street, two guys early twenties had maybe 10yo Japanese sedans, tricked out like they do now parked on the street, four wheels on but obviously not running and being worked on, for like three months. City Code compliance eventually put orange move-em-or-else stickers.

They go talk to the Code Compliance lady, she gives ‘em two weeks, they get em running in that time. That’s how it worked. I dunno from personal experience I’ve never been out of code.

The house next door to me recently sold for around $160,000, a decent price in these parts, after house flippers from California bought it, fixed it up and resold it. The previous resident was a retired Navy Veteran and good guy, a nice young couple bought it. The house on the other side of them the druggie grown sons are back, and apparently dealing again.

And you can lean on my front door and force it open. Or do what I do if I’m locked out; take the window A/C out from the window and climb in.
20 years this year, never had a break-in (knock on wood).


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One of my wife's childhood friends retired last year at age 61. He's got an old BMW R65 that he's had for years. I think it's a late 70's model.

He rode it from Toronto to the Arctic Circle last summer. Some where up there his transmission took a dump and left him stranded in a little village. He rented a room somewhere and sent off for parts that took a week to get there. Some local guy let him use a garage and some tools to fix it and he got it back home.

He's an unassuming looking guy,...spent his life working as a mechanical engineer. But he's got nerve to take off for the Arctic Circle on a 35 year old motorcycle at age 61.

My wife said that everytime her family would go visit them, him and his dad would be up under the hood of an old car with grease up to their elbows.

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Why would a Harley owner put his bike up on Craigslist? That's ridiculous.


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Nope, all true. If we meet on the fishing trip you can judge my character face to face

On the flat tire issue; in your gated community, I’m sure you got a week or so and then you get a sternly worded letter from the HOA, ‘nother week the tow truck arrives.

On my street, two guys early twenties had maybe 10yo Japanese sedans, tricked out like they do now parked on the street, four wheels on but obviously not running and being worked on, for like three months. City Code compliance eventually put orange move-em-or-else stickers.

They go talk to the Code Compliance lady, she gives ‘em two weeks, they get em running in that time. That’s how it worked. I dunno from personal experience I’ve never been out of code.

The house next door to me recently sold for around $160,000, a decent price in these parts, after house flippers from California bought it, fixed it up and resold it. The previous resident was a retired Navy Veteran and good guy, a nice young couple bought it. The house on the other side of them the druggie grown sons are back, and apparently dealing again.

And you can lean on my front door and force it open. Or do what I do if I’m locked out; take the window A/C out from the window and climb in.
20 years this year, never had a break-in (knock on wood).


You can stop trying.

You're full of schit.


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If you want to see what the H-D market is like,..stick one up on Craigslist.




Why would a Harley owner put his bike up on Craigslist? That's ridiculous.


You lost me again. Why is that ridiculous? Craigslist is full of Harley adds.

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He's an unassuming looking guy,...spent his life working as a mechanical engineer. But he's got nerve to take off for the Arctic Circle on a 35 year old motorcycle at age 61.


That guy is a hero to me cool

The BMW to have was the R75GS, their 750cc dual sport version.

In 1994 in bought a new R100GS/PD which was gonna be the bike I kept forever, the last BMWAirHead. Turns out that bike was one of the few lemons BMW ever made, stuff broke on it constantly. I was spoiled at the time on account of my previous daily transport was a stone-axe reliable KLR650 on which I put about 40,000 miles..

After two unhappy years and 45,000 miles I couldn’t sell that POS Beemer fast enough. I changed the oil in the KLR, dropped in a battery and after two years of sitting it fired right up like I had just ridden it the day before.

Now I’m needing another forever bike, this time forever prolly ain’t gonna be all that long.


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Originally Posted by deflave
You can stop trying.

You're full of schit.


I was prob’ly wrong on a whole week with a flat before a HOA letter where you live, I’d guess a week before the tow truck arrives.

OK, another recent episode from my neighborhood, only the names have been changed.....

I don’t really work for a living but it ain’t uncommon for me to not really work until way late. At night I ride my bicycle without lights so as not to attract attention. So anyways I turn the corner to my street and there’s Roberto, wrenching on his mom’s truck.

Twenty years back Roberto was the punk kid who poisoned the guy down the street’s three dogs so he could break into his car and steal the sound system. The guy with the dogs found out who and serverely beat young Roberto.

Unfortunately the dog guy was on probation for DWIs and got sent to jail, whereupon his wife left him and took the kids. This was a shame as we all liked dog guy, he was an honest roofer/remodeled who did good work.

Twenty years later Roberto, now divorced with a kid,is a decent-enough guy. Works construction, works the oilfield, whatever he can find. The big news he shared that night is that there was a big police raid down the next street, six or more Cop cars at a house, looking for Stevie. Stevie is a thirty-something drug-dealing ex-Con who nobody likes. Now Roberto, like everybody else, was glad to see Stevie maybe gone, but would never turn him in.

Two houses down from Stevie and his dad lives a nice family. Their oldest son recently competed in State-level academic competition (with a project he got from me, natch cool ) and is one of those naturally gifted kids and a fine young man.

I asked that kid the next day about the Cops and he said he had seen Stevie sprinting off down the street moments before the Cops arrived. Some of the Cops were plain-clothed. They knocked on the kid’s front door and asked if they could search the house for Stevie, his mom let them in and they searched the house. No Stevie of course. Neither did the kid say anything about Stevie.

It speaks volumes tho that the family would let the Cops in, good family, nothing to hide at all.

No news of Stevie, possibly if the Cops had all that on him they picked him up somewhere else.

Ain’t you coming to Texas? this is all easily verifiable.







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Ain’t you coming to Texas? this is all easily verifiable.



I'm in Texas all the time. My parents live there.

I don't know why you're so anxious to meet me. I'm just going to make fun of you to your face the same as I do here.


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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Originally Posted by Reba
OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah, and dudes on sport bikes have zero image, right?
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Harley management knows this and is trying to find another market.
And they're workin' on it..

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I am in Kalifornia and half the Harley dealerships of 20 years ago are out of business. .
That's because yer in Kalifornia.. With all the regs, taxes, BS laws and a flaming libby gov't, it's a wonder any business is still in CA... smile smile


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher


I was prob’ly wrong on a whole week with a flat before a HOA letter where you live, I’d guess a week before the tow truck arrives.



We'll add guessing to the list of schit you're no good at.


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OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah, and dudes on sport bikes have zero image, right?
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Harley management knows this and is trying to find another market.
And they're workin' on it..

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I am in Kalifornia and half the Harley dealerships of 20 years ago are out of business. .
That's because yer in Kalifornia.. With all the regs, taxes, BS laws and a flaming libby gov't, it's a wonder any business is still in CA... smile smile


Over the past 17'ish years I've lived in areas that are considered meccas for bikers.

I ain't seen any shortage of Harley's. Might not be as popular as the 90's and early 2000's but they're not going anywhere.


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I don’t wanna give you the idea that the Cops are on my street constantly because they’re not. In fact the last police altercation I’m aware of was close to twenty years back and involved dog guy’s kids, after he had been incarcerated. They were three brothers, ages about five through 13. Decent kids.

Apparently the mom commenced to leave them alone for long periods of time and for whatever reason one morning a Cop knocks on the front door to do a welfare check. The dog guy had boxers, and after the poisoning incident there was one left, a female.

A kid opens the door and the boxer runs out and scares the Cop, who then attempts to shoot it. The good news is the dog was only slightly wounded, but a mailbox across the street took one to the chest.

Only other incident of note involved a kid who was the daughter of a former student from my street. After graduating she became a stripper and married a strip club guy from Houston, two kids.

That didn’t work out so she was back with her mom with her two kids. The little girl was a nice kid, her brother however was clearly a psycho, from an early age.

Nine years old and he’s playing with a lighter in the front room, sets a couch on fire. Doesn’t want to get in trouble so he doesn’t say anything. The mom was out back, comes in smells smoke, sees the fire and runs out the front door with the kids. When she opened the front door the fire really took off.

Fire Department saved the house, but it was heavily damaged. The woman’s mom, a school bus driver, had just paid off the house but had no insurance. Took her about five years to get the house livable again but she finally did.

The grandmother is back living in it again, fortunately the daughter and the two kids ain’t. See, my house sits empty for long periods of time, especially now. And from what I seen of the lighter kid, if anyone was gonna break into my house and make my life miserable it was gonna be him when he hit his teenage years.

Didn’t happen, dodged a bullet, so far.


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Originally Posted by deflave
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Originally Posted by Reba
OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah, and dudes on sport bikes have zero image, right?
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Harley management knows this and is trying to find another market.
And they're workin' on it..

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I am in Kalifornia and half the Harley dealerships of 20 years ago are out of business. .
That's because yer in Kalifornia.. With all the regs, taxes, BS laws and a flaming libby gov't, it's a wonder any business is still in CA... smile smile


Over the past 17'ish years I've lived in areas that are considered meccas for bikers.

I ain't seen any shortage of Harley's. Might not be as popular as the 90's and early 2000's but they're not going anywhere.
Agreed.. In this area HDs outnumber the rest by a factor of 3-1..


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Originally Posted by Birdwatcher
An electric motorcycle?



110 mile range?

How many of those 110 miles are balls-to-the-wall flat out?

Most guys I know would be out of juice well before lunch.

Fake sound too?



It had better be really fast to make up for the extra 30 minutes of charging time when you get to the next town.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
Agreed.. In this area HDs outnumber the rest by a factor of 3-1..


I'm in Florida City every day and there are Harley's galore heading south.

Plenty of 20's-30's year olds on them too. Maybe not as many as previous decades, but like I say, they're not going anywhere IMO.

Peaks and valleys.


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Originally Posted by Redneck
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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by Reba
OK, You got dirt bikes, sport bikes and image bikes.

The Harley rider is an image rider and is going the way of the dinosaur.
Yeah, and dudes on sport bikes have zero image, right?
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Harley management knows this and is trying to find another market.
And they're workin' on it..

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I am in Kalifornia and half the Harley dealerships of 20 years ago are out of business. .
That's because yer in Kalifornia.. With all the regs, taxes, BS laws and a flaming libby gov't, it's a wonder any business is still in CA... smile smile


Over the past 17'ish years I've lived in areas that are considered meccas for bikers.

I ain't seen any shortage of Harley's. Might not be as popular as the 90's and early 2000's but they're not going anywhere.
Agreed.. In this area HDs outnumber the rest by a factor of 3-1..

A lot of Harley's up here in NW Pa. too. I rode for almost 40 years, and my main transport was a bike. Most of the time, it was a Japanese sport bike, but I put an awful lot of miles on a BMW R100RS. Got my first Harley, a 2005 Sportster, in 2006. I no longer rode as if every day, was race day. The bike was inexpensive to run, and pretty darn entertaining, without going over 100mph. Recently got a 2009 Lowrider, and though I only have about 1000 miles on it so far, I'm favorably impressed. Nice looking, economical, entertaining. I like the retro look and feel, with modern reliability. I think that is a big part of the Harley appeal. The live wire looks to be an attempt to stick a foot in the door, just in case they can gain some sort of advantage, should a trend for electric bikes occur. I can't imagine they expect it to be very profitable, but probably look at it as advertising.

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An electric motorcycle?



110 mile range?

How many of those 110 miles are balls-to-the-wall flat out?

Most guys I know would be out of juice well before lunch.

Fake sound too?



It had better be really fast to make up for the extra 30 minutes of charging time when you get to the next town.


If the concept takes off, It would almost guarantee that every bar on a known motorcycle route would have numerous charging stations. There is never a bad reason to stop for a few more beers.....
Maybe they could market it under the green new deal and go for the federal tax dollars.

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Around here, counting the Japanese Harley 'lookalikes' along with true Harleys, outnumber the high reving 'tupperware' crotch rockets by a pretty fair margin, with the majority of the crotch rockets being ridden by 30 and under year olds.

Personally, I strongly doubt that the oil and gas industry is in any imminent nor long term danger of loosing any significant worth because of lower demand for fuels due to electric powered vehicles.


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Originally Posted by Longhunter_1
MG, what's the world coming to. My 1997 Heritage Springer doesn't whine, it rumbles

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Did it come with two cymbals and a monkey to sit on back?


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Around here, counting the Japanese Harley 'lookalikes' along with true Harleys, outnumber the high reving 'tupperware' crotch rockets by a pretty fair margin, with the majority of the crotch rockets being ridden by 30 and under year olds.

Personally, I strongly doubt that the oil and gas industry is in any imminent nor long term danger of loosing any significant worth because of lower demand for fuels due to electric powered vehicles.



I don't think the intent was to replace the internal combustion engine.


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OK for you deniers that Harley is looking at financial problems I suggest you invest in their stock. But you better look at their annual financials first.

I really don't know if an electric motorcycle will help keep them business or not. I look for them to cut back on the number of models offered.


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Originally Posted by Reba
OK for you deniers that Harley is looking at financial problems I suggest you invest in their stock. But you better look at their annual financials first.

I really don't know if an electric motorcycle will help keep them business or not. I look for them to cut back on the number of models offered.


Everyone knows they're less profitable right now but that doesn't mean Harley is going away. They're still very popular.

Their e-bike could very well take off, or fail. But the success of the concept isn't hinged on Harley Davidson's model.


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