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I'm looking at a interarms whitworth in 375 h&H and a pre 64 Winchester 338 win mag. The Winchester is twice the cost of the interarms. Both are in good condition. Which one would you buy and why?
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Whitworth .375 H&H. There is nothing in the world that cannot be taken with a .375 H&H.
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I have no particular purpose. I just like rifles and try out all I can. So buy them both.
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Buy the pre-64, you will shoot a 338 a lot more. The Winchester will grow in value.
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I would go Winchester. As already stated, value will increase. The .338 is enough for all of NA, and probably cheaper to shoot, as well. Or if money is no object, buy both. You can always sell one. I would personally have no use for a 375 unless going to Africa, but wouldn’t mind having one. Wouldn’t mind having a lot of others either. Guns and women are like that.
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+1 pre-64 Seems to want to climb into any rifle collection.
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Not all pre-64's are increasing in value anymore. The 338 didn't come out until 1958 and by then even the Pre-64's were much lower quality than the ones prior to WW-2. They didn't just fall off a cliff in 1964. That is just when Winchester decided to make a rifle that was cheaper to build rather than keep making crappy rifles that cost a lot to build. For a time ANY pre-64 sold at a premium simply because that was the only option for a USA made CRF rifle. With the reintroduction of Winchesters with CRF and other options like Ruger and Kimber pre-64 Winchesters are not as desirable as they used to be.
And there is nothing a 338 WM will do significantly better than a 30-06. The next step above 30-06 starts with 375. I have no need for one, but I like that round a lot. Big enough for anything on the planet, yet versatile enough to still be used on deer, bear and elk. The trajectory out to about 400 yards is basically the same as 30-06/180's.
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Whitworth .375 H&H. There is nothing in the world that cannot be taken with a .375 H&H. If we don't include the word legally in the equation, I could say the same about the .338 WM. However, I would probably opt for the .375 H&H as well. I just think the H&H has a little cooler history.
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With all due respect when comparing a 180 gr 30-06 to a 225 grain 338 Win Mag or any other load you wish to compare, the 338 Win Mag produces more energy at 200 yards than the 30-06 produces at the muzzle. I would say that is significantly better, wouldn’t you.
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Not all pre-64's are increasing in value anymore. The 338 didn't come out until 1958 and by then even the Pre-64's were much lower quality than the ones prior to WW-2. They didn't just fall off a cliff in 1964. That is just when Winchester decided to make a rifle that was cheaper to build rather than keep making crappy rifles that cost a lot to build. For a time ANY pre-64 sold at a premium simply because that was the only option for a USA made CRF rifle. With the reintroduction of Winchesters with CRF and other options like Ruger and Kimber pre-64 Winchesters are not as desirable as they used to be.
And there is nothing a 338 WM will do significantly better than a 30-06. The next step above 30-06 starts with 375. I have no need for one, but I like that round a lot. Big enough for anything on the planet, yet versatile enough to still be used on deer, bear and elk. The trajectory out to about 400 yards is basically the same as 30-06/180's. Again, with all due respect, I disagree with most everything in both of these paragraphs.
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Wish I could get both but that's not a option right now. Not planning a safari but also think the 375 is cool. Don't need a 338 either but that's what caliber this particular rifle is. I have read that the ruger 375 has taken some of the desirability from the h&h. Thanks for your opinions so far, keep them coming.
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Well the nice thing about the 338 Win Mag is the versatility of the cartridge. For the most part it possesses the attributes of a flat shooting 300 Mag and has close to the muscle of a 375 H&H, which is quite a nice feature. Many of Cape buffalo have fallen to a 338 Win Mag. Is it as good on DG as the 375 H&H? No, but in a pinch it will kill just a effectively with 275 gr loads. The 375 does not possess the great flat shooting high BC bullets the 338 does and in that arena, the 375 can’t compete.
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P64 338 Win... my simple opinion is they nailed it correct with that one. Plenty of length to load long bullets if you want, the rifle isn’t ridiculously heavy, they usually shoot real well and they don’t punish the shooter with decent loads. I gave 1200 for this one back in 2012 timeframe. It’s been a near constant companion on every serious hunt I’ve been on. And I’ve mulled thru a few stocks. Finally settling on a Legend. I also have a 375 Improved almost identical to my 338 that I like a lot but I’ve got a bunch of solid history with this old 338.
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Nice looking rifle, beretzs-in all of its stocks.😎
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Nice looking rifle, beretzs-in all of its stocks.😎 Thank you sir. It’s my main hunting rifle. It’s amazing how well the ol 338 still works.
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