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I'm assuming if you believe in our Heavenly Father, a significant portion then would also believe in the devil. If it is the devil's goal to do evil and deceive,, just how does one sort out what is gospel and what is false? I have changed all my prayers. I now pray to " Heavenly Father" for as far as I know the word God may be the devils name. God's chosen people. Could this really be the same people flooding our minds with the filth that comes from movies and music, that works to undermine our values thru the courts? How do you guys sort this out?
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I don’t worry about it. I pray to God. I’m pretty confident He’s getting the messages.
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Western Christianity got a lot of things wrong. That's why I dumped it.
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First Commandment - I am the Lord, thy God - thou shalt have no other gods before me."
All I need to know.
I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~
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Even non Christians know right from wrong. I don't have to be a biblical scholar to know you don't murder people because they believe something different then you do. Although I find gays to be disgusting, I know I shouldn't toss them off a roof. I know you shouldn't lie, cheat, and steal, and I know calling it something other than lying, cheating or stealing doesn't make it right. Christianity is believing that Christ suffered and died on my behalf. Knowing right from wrong is having a moral compass. 7mm
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another tough one, but fools rush in where the brave fear to tread, or something like that.
god is a generic term in my view. it could be allah, but most think not.
it could also be Great Spirit, YHWH, Elohim, El-Shaddi, Almighty Creator, and numerous other possibilities as spelled in the english language.
beseeching almighty god is a term i heard a lot in prayers in church when growing up.
if the debil did exist, does he still exist?
does he control earth?
does he work under "god's" direction?
is a tornado evil? was it sent by the debil?
can a debil keep prayer from working as it should?
if we all prayed hard enough, could we disable der debil?
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Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
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The King i allus liked Priscilla about as much as i liked the king. what was she, some 14 years old when love happened? like aretha franklin, ol elvis learned to sing in the christian church.
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The enemy is a sneaky ,creepy power. He will try to imitate, but will leave telltale signs behind, like angry, frustration, jealousy etc...a sign he has been around. The more you seek out God , the more that creep harasses you. I bring God, Jesus or the Holy spirit into the conversation and the enemy leaves me alone. I can't even believe I speak like this now in my life but I am aware of this warfare ...he is panicking, so maybe we are close. If in doubt I say " Sweet Jesus" . All day long-easy to say and nothing is truer.
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I don’t worry about it. I pray to God. I’m pretty confident He’s getting the messages.
P this ^^^ Richard. God is ok. God is The God. Some have other Gods. God sent his son to die for our sins. We only come to God , The Father, by the intervention and petition of Jesus Christ. He is at Gods right hand, petitioning for us this very minute. Thank you God for Jesus Christ. Praise and glory be to you, Father, for Jesus Christ. For its in Jesus' name i pray, Amen.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I'm assuming if you believe in our Heavenly Father, a significant portion then would also believe in the devil. If it is the devil's goal to do evil and deceive,, just how does one sort out what is gospel and what is false? I have changed all my prayers. I now pray to " Heavenly Father" for as far as I know the word God may be the devils name. God's chosen people. Could this really be the same people flooding our minds with the filth that comes from movies and music, that works to undermine our values thru the courts? How do you guys sort this out? As long as you know who you are praying to, the name doesn't matter. There are many languages with different words that mean the same thing. Heavenly Father, Lord, Almighty God or simply God....as long as you know, He will too. Part of Satan's plan is confusion, so don't let the drone of garbage flying around confuse you, you know what's in your heart.
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The enemy is a sneaky ,creepy power. sorry, thought you were referring to one of the demo-socialist candidates. ol uncle joe. running as the socialist candidate for president. i think we should turn around, and run from the debil.
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Western Christianity got a lot of things wrong. That's why I dumped it. Just so you know Christianity never dumped you and it's still there.
The way life should be.
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The King He didnt last long after taking that title. Lets see, what did the heathens start calling Ali and Michael Jackson?
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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way back in the day had a secretary that was religious, went to church, and belonged to several church oriented groups for women of service to the lord.
her favorite comment was that we really don't know if christianity works or not, since it's not really ever been tried.
that is, the catholics talk to their lot.
protestants to theirs.
baptists, too.
and then the rest of the humans don't get the message.
they stay with buddha, hindu's, shintoists, and others.
it's been 2,000 years and here we are.
we can all agree on that, surely?
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Hold on to that rosary and say a few Hail Marys and your good to go. No worries.
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The enemy is a sneaky ,creepy power. sorry, thought you were referring to one of the demo-socialist candidates. ol uncle joe. running as the socialist candidate for president. i think we should turn around, and run from the debil. It is not delusional, it is very real . Our maker had to provided contrast, if there were no evil, how would we know good? God wants us to choose good over evil? We were given the ability to make a choice. I am a science guy myself, I ask you why doesn't mainstream science accept quantum science? I will tell you because it scares them and throws all our calculated thoughts in the trash about time and space. Albert E was a believer. My .02 ...Cheers
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There is a back story I probably should have included. I recently ha e started shooting pool again. I made the acquaintence of a guy (actually the dynamics are such you tend to meet everyone). Anyway the individual I'm referring to is happy to shoot for a couple hundred a rack a d is there everyday. No big deal but come to find out he's a "Bishop", owns a church, and preaches on the radio every Sunday morning. So one day he asks me if I would like him to say a prayer for me. Of course I would, except he ended a very generous prayer with the statement that I agree to send his "church" 10% of my income for the rest of my earning life. So there I am with a "do you want these blessings, 10%, pay the cashier on your way out". I'm seldom speechless, but this one took me by surprise. Somehow I don't feel compelled to fund this guys gambling habit. I mean, Father, though shall not sheer thy sheep should be a part of the gig. So there's my conflict which has given rise to some soul searching.
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if the debil did exist, does he still exist? ..
does he work under "god's" direction?
Ask righteous Job, ..the Lord did a deal with Satan and told him what he could and couldn't do to Job. effectively mans adversary the devil, is Gods divinely approved mercenary and appointed prince of this world. God gave Satan an important role and God trusts that he will carry out that role to best of his God given ability .. God has told his bumbass scatterbrain sheep to be 'as wise as serpents', God knows his flock are helpless and stupid, but it shows he has recognition and even a level of respect for the abilities of the devil. Outside of God , nobody knows God better than Satan, who was once Gods most cherished inner sanctum angel and who still knows and understands God way more intimately than clueless humans....any Christian who knew God a small fraction as well as Satan does, would be doing astoundingly well. Just remember there's only one worthy match for the devil because he's that capable, hence why its a spiritual entity realm battle. Humans are mostly good for nothing in Gods eyes.
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Yup. He’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing. 10% of all your earnings for a prayer? A sham if I ever did see one. Run.....!
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