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Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article #13775822 04/27/19
Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 287 Northern IL S smitty_bs OP Campfire Member
OP smitty_bs Campfire Member S Joined: Aug 2018 Posts: 287 Northern IL	Wayne VZ has a nice article on elk cartridges in the June Guns Magazine. He's used 36 cartridges on elk including 30/30. Pretty cool and proves you don't need a 338 mag to bring down a bull.

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Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776141 04/27/19
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,239 Likes: 27 Battle Born	Yeah, we might as well throw everything away and just use 22lr Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article bsa1917hunter #13776158 04/27/19
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meddybemps Campfire Regular M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 685 Mass and Maine	Nah..... just goes to show you don't need a magnum anything if the range is not waaaay out there. You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776291 04/27/19
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hanco Campfire Savant Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 152,215 Likes: 35 Texas	I would think a 338 would be good. I think he did an article on 33’s some years ago.

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776303 04/27/19
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kid0917 Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 12,359 VA	I enjoy his writing, he makes good sense and has a way with words, IMO.

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Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776695 04/27/19
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Godogs57 Campfire Tracker G Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,460 Likes: 6 SW Georgia	Great guy...I corresponded with him here on the Campfire and set up a time to meet him at the NRA meetings in Atlanta so he could autograph a copy of his elk hunting book I had. A very gracious man in person, perfectly willing to talk elk hunting as long as I wanted. I did my best to not monopolize his time though we did talk cartridges after he asked me what I shot. After I responded “338” he was more than complementary of my choice. Last edited by Godogs57; 04/27/19. You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776781 04/27/19
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beretzs Campfire Ranger B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 15,360 Likes: 10 Northeast USA	WVZ has a ton of common sense and like most of us has used a bit of everything on elk, understands and hunts towards his capabilities. Pretty hard to talk poorly about a fella that hammers as many elk as he has in so many different environments. Semper Fi

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article hanco #13776799 04/27/19
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bsa1917hunter Campfire 'Bwana B Joined: Aug 2010 Posts: 48,239 Likes: 27 Battle Born	Originally Posted by hanco I would think a 338 would be good. I think he did an article on 33’s some years ago. The 338wm is an excellent choice for elk hunting. That is if you can handle one. And yes, he did do an article on the big 33's in the August 2000 issue of RifleShooter magazine. Page 30 to be exact. That too is a good read. Back then, his exact words for the 338wm: "If there's a quintessential modern elk cartridge, the 338 winchester qualifies"...... By definition, "Quintessential": "representing the most perfect or typical example of a quality or class." According to the online dictionary. Originally Posted by raybass I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. Originally Posted by Pharmseller You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776918 04/27/19
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,035 Likes: 5 Winchester, WY USA M memtb Campfire Outfitter
memtb Campfire Outfitter M Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 11,035 Likes: 5 Winchester, WY USA	Most anything “will” work....but, the .338 WM is just darn hard to beat for most any situation and at any reasonable game shooting range. And ....with proper bullets, from most any angle! memtb Last edited by memtb; 04/27/19. You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel “I’d like to be a good rifleman…..but, I prefer to be a good hunter”! memtb 2024

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13776933 04/27/19
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bowmanh Campfire Tracker B Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,032 Likes: 4 NW Oregon	I've always liked Wayne Van Zwoll's writing and have his book on elk hunting as well as a couple of his other books on shooting. He is a no nonsense type of writer and I've always found his opinions sensible. Speaking as someone whose family comes from there, it's also hard to dislike a guy who thinks the Wallowa Mountains are great.

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Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13777120 04/27/19
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WAM Campfire Tracker W Joined: May 2017 Posts: 4,933 Likes: 3 Sweet Home	Wayne VZ is a great writer and hunter. As you know, writers have to talk up many cartridges. But if I’m not mistaken, one of his favorite cartridges is the 7mm Weatherby and has written that. Good fellow and fellow Washingtonian. Happy Trails Life Member NRA, RMEF, American Legion, MAGA. Not necessarily in that order.

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13783738 04/30/19
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prm Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 8,748	Tried unsuccessfully to find a copy locally. What’s the gist of what he had to say? Probably didn’t even mention the 338 Fed I’ll have with me. $#&@ writers

Re: Wayne Van Zwoll & Elk Cartridge Article smitty_bs #13785780 05/01/19
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pointer Campfire Outfitter Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,669 Indiana	Originally Posted by smitty_bs Wayne VZ has a nice article on elk cartridges in the June Guns Magazine. He's used 36 cartridges on elk including 30/30. Pretty cool and proves you don't need a 338 mag to bring down a bull. His PhD had a section on that. ;D Just with the library at Utah State had all of the pages of his dissertation while I was there.

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