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Anyone had experience with EAA in 10mm?
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I have been drooling over a Witness Elite Match in 10 mm for fifteen years, but never tripped the trigger.
A Witness in 38 Super has been one of the most accurate and best feeling pistols I ever got my hands on.
I can not tell you from personal experience, but everything I have ever seen in print says the Witness is one of the best platforms out there for a 10 mm.
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Nothing wrong with EAA pistols, other than the fact that they don’t seem to hold a good resale value when sold used.
Personally, I’d rather have a Glock long slide or a Springfield TRP in 10mm. But to each his own.
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Back in the day I had a 45 that I switched into a 9mm. Or on second thought it may have been a 9mm I turned into a .45. The moral of the story is I seem to recall that there were some slide cracking issues, mostly with the 10, but also some 9s. Not so much with the 45s. But it was only with a certain slide configuration. Slides with different cuts were basically immune. This was a while back so I suspect it's been long ago sorted out, and I'm completely fuzzy about the slide differences at this point, but I'm sure you could look it up. I thought it was a very nice shooting, well-made gun, but the grip was pretty big, relative to most other guns.
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I have 2 Witness 10mm's, one ruled, the other the Wonder Finish. Really like both. Also have an RIA 1911 in 10mm. Had a Clock G20, won't go there again.
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I've been interested in them for a while and just pulled the trigger on this one. Initial range results are looking good...
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I had a couple of them about 10 years ago. The gun itself is pretty good; the mags were not. I had very sporadic results getting through full mags without feed issues; sometimes it'd be fine all day, and other days would be endless mag problems. I got rid of them because of the mag issues. Maybe they've improved them now, I don't know.
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Had the same mag issue with my EAA 10 (mags had a red follower). Sent all 3 back to EAA and they replaced them with 3 Mec-gar mags at no charge. Haven't had a problem since. I have medium hands and the grip is good for me. For reference Glock 20 does not fit in my hand properly.... need the SF.
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Had the same mag issue with my EAA 10 (mags had a red follower). Sent all 3 back to EAA and they replaced them with 3 Mec-gar mags at no charge. Haven't had a problem since. I have medium hands and the grip is good for me. For reference Glock 20 does not fit in my hand properly.... need the SF. Good info. My mags were either a red or orange follower as well. When I had mine though, EAA's customer service was pretty bad, and it wasn't worth waiting 6 months or more for them to get around to replacing mags, it made more sense to move to a different gun. I'll also say that I had the same full size Witness steel model in 45 Auto, and it was one of the best 45 Autos I've ever had, with never a mag issue. The problems I experienced were strictly with the 10mm magazines. Your comment on the G20 is par for the course with gen 2 & 3 G20 and G21 frames; they don't fit most peoples hands. The gen 3 SF and all gen 4 guns are shorter front to back in the grip, and fit most people's hands much better. They're also a lot more common these days than the older big frames that nobody wants.
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i had a .38 Super that had feeding issues as well. Never could get it to feed properly. I finally sold it to someone who wanted it for a project gun.
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Yup I love it! Reliable accurate and nice looking!
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I bought Witness in 40 S&W when they first hit the market. Now I have CZ 75 40 & I love them both. Highly reliable, as much as my Browning Hi Power 40, the most reliable semi auto I own.
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Wrap you hand around & shoot a SIG P220 R 5 10mm & you'll never look back or want/need any other 10mm pistol
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Nice gun for sure. Love sigs but like my EAA much better
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Wrap you hand around & shoot a SIG P220 R 5 10mm & you'll never look back or want/need any other 10mm pistol Except that it's empty weight is as much as a G20 fully loaded and when the Sig is loaded, only holds half the rounds of the Glock. If Sig had made it a double stack they'd have a real contender in the 10mm game. It's a good gun, high quality, no doubt, Sig just missed the boat on this one. I'll take a 1911 10mm everyday over this Sig. As for the EAA, I've foundled so many, but never shot one. I keep wishing CZ with a higher reputation for quality control than EAA would make a 10mm option.
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Ive wanted one of these in wonder finish after shooting one a guy at a local range had, the pistol was extremely accurate
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Is the EAA based on the CZ-75, by any chance? It sure reminds me of one in these pictures, at least?
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Is the EAA based on the CZ-75, by any chance? It sure reminds me of one in these pictures, at least? Yes, the Witness is a CZ-75 clone. Essentially it's a bare bones Bren Ten.
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I had the Witness steel hunter 6" in 10mm. Awesome quality but in the end too heavy for a woods gun for me. Also, I thought it was weird that it only held 12+1 in such a big gun, two rounds off from the advertised 14+1, 3 less than the XDM and Glock, and 4 less than a 2011. No, 14+1 is completely impossible, and 13+1 is impossible as a practical matter. 13+1 was so incredibly tight that even if you could get it in, after laboring for an hour, it would never be stripped by the slide.... not even a close call, and didn't matter if the mag was broke in. These are 12+1 period.
But the polymer Witnesses look like a pretty strong candidate for woods defense. I have the 5.25 XDM now myself, and will later complement it with a RIA 6" HC match.
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