I was looking for a .250-3000 in a Savage 99 at a collector show for the kid, but not finding one I bought a Remington 760 in a .257 Roberts instead. I had no idea that it was as collectible as you guys let on and I sold it when the kid lost interest in deer hunting. It was a good shooter like most of the 760's and sure milder on the back end than an '06 in a 760. A 141 in .35 Remington followed me home another time, but I wasn't sure why Remington thought that it needed a 24" barrel, so I "fixed" mine down to a cut and crowed 20 incher. Too heavy and overbuilt compared to the earlier 14's and that one hit the used rack too in preference to the afore mentioned M99F in a .300 Savage.
My other auto is a .45
The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory
I was looking for a .250-3000 in a Savage 99 at a collector show for the kid, but not finding one I bought a Remington 760 in a .257 Roberts instead. I had no idea that it was as collectible as you guys let on and I sold it when the kid lost interest in deer hunting. It was a good shooter like most of the 760's and sure milder on the back end than an '06 in a 760. A 141 in .35 Remington followed me home another time, but I wasn't sure why Remington thought that it needed a 24" barrel, so I "fixed" mine down to a cut and crowed 20 incher. Too heavy and overbuilt compared to the earlier 14's and that one hit the used rack too in preference to the afore mentioned M99F in a .300 Savage.
Aren't the only differences between the Remington 14 and 141 the barrel length, 22" vs. 24", and the slightly larger stock and forearm on the 141? I agree that those old Remingtons were overbuilt and that while the 141s are physically larger and heavier than the 14s, I wonder how much more they actually do weigh.
IIRC, Johm Wooters had a 141 with the barrel cut back to just a bit longer than the magazine tube. I've thought about finding a previously bubba'd 141 in 35 REM to replicate JW's rifle, but it is probably one of those neat but never to get done projects.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
yours, tex
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"VICTORY OR DEATH"
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I've never fingered a M14 or the even more desirable 14 1/2 in a .35, but my uncle has a .30 Remington and a friend has a .32 Remington M14 and they felt more like a BB gun compared to my 141. That thing was all steel and a real chunk even with the bobbed barrel. That was back in my youth when I thought that I could walk down a deer until I realized that they had 4 legs and I only had two and they could go twice as fast.
My other auto is a .45
The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory
I've never fingered a M14 or the even more desirable 14 1/2 in a .35, but my uncle has a .30 Remington and a friend has a .32 Remington M14 and they felt more like a BB gun compared to my 141. That thing was all steel and a real chunk even with the bobbed barrel. That was back in my youth when I thought that I could walk down a deer until I realized that they had 4 legs and I only had two and they could go twice as fast.
The 14 1/2 was only chambered in 38-40 and 44-40.
The 14 was chambered in 25, 30, 32, and 35 REM.
I've heard of 141s made in 25 REM, but have never seen one, only in 30, 32, and 35 REM.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
yours, tex
I don't recall anything about a 760 in 7x57 being mentioned in Myszkowski's book, but Remington has made a lot of special runs in non-cataloged configurations, so there are a lot of little known regional oddballs out there, many of them from Grice Guns.
Fyi, I'm not sure that the 760 in .257 Roberts is technically "collectable" or not (to anyone but us "760 addicts"), but I've looked for one for well over 3 years W/O success for my collection of Remington pump-rifles. (The .257 Roberts and the VERY RARE 7x57mm chambering are the 2 "holes" in my collection.)
YES, I know some "experts" say that there were NO 7x57mm Model 760 rifles made but my information is that CHERRY'S SPORTING GOODS once "special ordered" 300 pieces from Remington. (Ordering anything is NOT the same as RECEIVING the ordered item.- Therefore, I don't know if the rifles were actually produced/delivered or not.) In any case, I'm reasonably sure that IF I found a 7x57mm that I couldn't afford to buy it.
yours, tex
Has anyone ever seen a 7x57?
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Hunter S. Thompson
I have NOT. - All that I know is that a former & now long dead employee of Cherry's Sporting Goods of Chicago, IL once told me in the 1980s that they were ordered & that he was "sure" that the special order was for 300 pieces. Bob M__________ said that he had no idea if they were actually produced/delivered or not, as he had a stroke & had to retire from CSG's employment.
I received an email from a man on another forum, years ago, that ONE 7x57mm was sold at auction years ago for reportedly over 3,000.USD. (In theory, according to the same "source", a pair of samples were made for Cherry's.)
That is the SUM of all that "I think I know" of this subject & all, some or perhaps none, of what I've seen/heard, may be true. - In any case, I believe enough is truthful to KEEP LOOKING for more/better information. (IF Cherry's Sporting Goods was not KNOWN to have made other "instant collectables", I wouldn't bother with this rather odd issue.)
I would be PLEASED if any of our members has any other (& hopefully better) info on this matter.
yours, tex
"VICTORY OR DEATH"
William Barrett Travis, Lt.Col., comdt. Fortress of The Alamo, Bejar F'by 24, 1836
I thought it was time to resurrect this thread for the upcoming season and personally thank swag for letting me talk him out of this beauty. He didn't let it go cheap but it's a 1968 model just like me and I'm pretty sure she was unfired. I bought a half dozen 150 gr factory loads to break it in with and see what she liked. Lucky for me she really liked the Federal blue box as you can see. I had a hard time believing the second shot went in the same hole even though it was slightly elongated, so I put a piece of tape over the hole. . Second best was the American Whitetail loads at a sub 1" 5 shot group. THANKS AGAIN SWAG!
They say everything happens for a reason. For me that reason is usually because I've made some bad decisions that I need to pay for.
I want to thank Whelen Nut and Skane on the guidance they gave me last year with the 7600 I had worked on. The rifle worked very well in the woods and I had a 10pt opening morning at 125yds that dropped like a ton of bricks. The big 9pt came on Thanksgiving with a different rifle.
I thought it was time to resurrect this thread for the upcoming season and personally thank swag for letting me talk him out of this beauty. He didn't let it go cheap but it's a 1968 model just like me and I'm pretty sure she was unfired. I bought a half dozen 150 gr factory loads to break it in with and see what she liked. Lucky for me she really liked the Federal blue box as you can see. I had a hard time believing the second shot went in the same hole even though it was slightly elongated, so I put a piece of tape over the hole. . Second best was the American Whitetail loads at a sub 1" 5 shot group. THANKS AGAIN SWAG!