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Hardly. They kill each other constantly. Always have, always will.

The reason there are so many versions of Christianity is because we all get along so well??

The difference is English Common law....not Sharia.

Fair enough, but the implication that the Roman Catholic Church is monolithic is a false one. There are many, many factions within that institution which render that argument null & void.

By the way... historic Protestants are truly little-c catholic. We believe in the catholicity or universality of the invisible church... all those who are truly saved.

I for one believe that there is a whole host of people in that group; some there because of the faithful message of the tradition (or anti-tradition) in which they participate on this side of the grave, others in spite of it. It is God who saves; His message of salvation in Christ goes forth in spite of mans best efforts.

Guess I could have added they at in His name, not on their own, but that seems pretty obvious to me.
So you think the apostles were a bunch of posers?

If you want to play that game, then yes I do in fact think the apostles were not and are not God.

And yes...I also think that catholics are idolaters, which I also think is encouraged by the thieves and paedophiles in charge to further their own ends.

And if you don't like what I think then don't bother conversing with me as there is no hope in hell I am ever going to be convinced otherwise.



The thievery is demonstrable in the vatican franchise, as is the paedophilia.

Deny it all you like...just like all the other good catholics.

English Common Law and the whole Western legal tradition is founded upon Judeo-Christian ideas about man’s intrinsic value as image bearers of God.

Even non Christian scoffers benefit from Christianity; particularly here in the West.

Laws and books written by men.


Given half a chance the most pious will denounce another for being "different"



Go ahead and be Catholic if you want too.....sheesh.

Actually I don't care what you think.

Apparently you do.

There a set of core beliefs which all Catholics hold, defines being Catholic. Start with the Nicene Creed. After that there are all kinds of ways to worship. There are other teachings which in good conscience you may or may not choose to follow.

I’m not Catholic; turned it down a long time ago.

There is a big difference between denouncing ideas and men as you well know.

Unless you’re denouncing us for arguing about this stuff, which I assume you’re not. I assume you feel there are better things to argue about perhaps? If so that’s your call.

The fact remains that Christianity is imbedded in the values of the West. The very fact we can have these conversations and not fear for our lives from repercussions of our opinions by the govt or our tribes is owed to Christian ideals. As much as people wrongly suggest we’d all kill each other given the chance that’s simply not the case.

I have far more I agree with nighthawk on than disagree. Ghat doesn’t mean we can’t spar. I’d break bread and hang with him happily; and I’m confident he would me.

You, on the other hand...

(That’s a joke...)

Christianity is not the issue, one man setting himself up as God's mouthpiece is, particularly when he delves in to realms he has no business venturing in to.

We hold to all the catholic creeds.

Liberation theologians, abundant in the RCC, use the language of Catholicism but don’t mean the same thing. They’re not Roman Catholic, yet enjoy it’s communion. Same for other sorts of liberals. There are factions within the Church who render the “you Protestant disagree” argument null & void.

I don’t know how I could more clearly demonstrate I agree than what I’ve posted in this thread.

Christianity isn’t the issue........”christians” are.

I dont like the arguments and blanket statements.


Folks telling other folks that their deeply held beliefs are wrong or silly or dangerous or going to send them to hell...........is not a slippery slope......there is no slope.....its straight down.

Amen; you won’t hear disagreement from me on that.

We suck.

All are free to believe as they will, but when they discuss it on an open forum they put their beliefs under scrutiny and have no business getting the pips about any dissenting view.

Yeah, thats a good point.

Appreciate that efw. Thank the Greeks for rational debate. I like it, have to review my beliefs as well as the other guys and it's a sad day if I don't learn something along the way. It is possible to respect someone and their beliefs without accepting those beliefs. There are major disagreements but as Christians we're walking the same path.