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She came apart at full draw. I can see where a guy could develop a flinch if that was a regular thing.....grin.

3Rivers sent me a UPS label to send the bow back to Bear for examination, so it's in transit now. 3Rivers also said they will refund the bow. Still waiting on that.

I'm going to roll that money into a custom Toelke. Their bows look to be highly regarded in craftsmanship and performance, and they are truly stunning to look at. I'm leaning toward a 64 Super Static recurve, or a 66" Whip. 40-45 draw weight.


That accident could have been much much worse. You have a guardian angel

I had that thought when I saw that knot on his head and have heard stories of folks losing an eye under similar circumstances. Shane, you won't go wrong with a Toelke - I haven't had the pleasure of shooting one but have heard nothing but good things, and he will be able to tailor it to work with your wing span.

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All trad eye injuries I've heard about were from stringing.

My buddy blew up his 80# PSE Mach 4 at a shoot, that one conked him on the head pretty hard.
I blew mine up (@82#) and it just cable lashed my bow arm.

Both cracked risers right through the shelf.
PSE changed the molds, reinforced that area and moved a gate.

Of course then came machined risers.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
She came apart at full draw. I can see where a guy could develop a flinch if that was a regular thing.....grin.

3Rivers sent me a UPS label to send the bow back to Bear for examination, so it's in transit now. 3Rivers also said they will refund the bow. Still waiting on that.

I'm going to roll that money into a custom Toelke. Their bows look to be highly regarded in craftsmanship and performance, and they are truly stunning to look at. I'm leaning toward a 64 Super Static recurve, or a 66" Whip. 40-45 draw weight.


MM good choice and wise move on the draw weight, I hope you make it out to pay him a visit.


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I went through Ronan over the weekend, but didn't want to bother anyone.

When I'm ready to make an order, maybe I'll stop by. I'm not going to be an annoying 'tire kicker' wasting people's time.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
WTF???? I'm drawing the bow and holding, thinking about form, then gently drawing down.

Suddenly I have a takedown bow, and am bleeding from the melon. I didn't collapse.....the bow did.

It lasted 24 hours, and maybe 40 draws.



I think I found the problem. You need to back way off on the bench presses...... grin



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Spoke with Dan Toelke today, and have one of his bows in the pipeline. He estimated about five weeks.

64" Whip, 40# at 28".

I'm pretty stoked!

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Gotta give a thumbs-up to 3Rivers Archery too. They quickly refunded the full cost of the broken bow, and sent me a label to send the broken one back to Bear.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Spoke with Dan Toelke today, and have one of his bows in the pipeline. He estimated about five weeks.

64" Whip, 40# at 28".

I'm pretty stoked!


Hell yes! That is awesome. Congratulations


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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Spoke with Dan Toelke today, and have one of his bows in the pipeline. He estimated about five weeks.

64" Whip, 40# at 28".

I'm pretty stoked!

Great choice! 40 lbs is about perfect to shoot or hunt with. You will still be able to use it in 10 years.

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Got a call from Dan Toelke yesterday. Finish work is happening now, Bow will be shipping next Thursday.

That seems like great turnaround on a custom. Only about three weeks from order to ship.





So I'm looking at arrows. target arrows, but would like to use weight consistent with a hunting arrow in the event I develop the skill to hunt with this bow.

Looking at the spine charts, with my draw length and bow poundage (probably going to be 45 lbs at my draw length), it seems like a 400 spine is indicated for a 32" Easton aluminum shaft at 12 GPI, 29gr insert, and a 150-200gr insert/tip. I'm calculating arrow weight in the 550-600gr range, FOC around 12-14%.

With 45 lbs, I'm guessing velocity might be around 150-160 fps?

Does any of this seem way wrong? Or about right?

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
Got a call from Dan Toelke yesterday. Finish work is happening now, Bow will be shipping next Thursday.

That seems like great turnaround on a custom. Only about three weeks from order to ship.





So I'm looking at arrows. target arrows, but would like to use weight consistent with a hunting arrow in the event I develop the skill to hunt with this bow.

Looking at the spine charts, with my draw length and bow poundage (probably going to be 45 lbs at my draw length), it seems like a 400 spine is indicated for a 32" Easton aluminum shaft at 12 GPI, 29gr insert, and a 150-200gr insert/tip. I'm calculating arrow weight in the 550-600gr range, FOC around 12-14%.

With 45 lbs, I'm guessing velocity might be around 150-160 fps?

Does any of this seem way wrong? Or about right?







What's your draw length and are you set on aluminum? I only mess with carbons and don't know much about aluminum.

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Draw length is around 30.5"

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I'm not hard over on aluminum vs carbon.

Aluminum looks less expensive, and since I'm likely to be destroying a few.....grin

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I had a Toelke whip for a while, by far the nicest longbow I ever owned or have shot.

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Originally Posted by MontanaMarine
I'm not hard over on aluminum vs carbon.

Aluminum looks less expensive, and since I'm likely to be destroying a few.....grin

I've got some carbons that I've been shooting for over 10 years. Some have been shot through 3/4 plywood by mistake, and lived to fly again. I shot XX75's for years,maybe 20 or so and always bent those suckers on something if I ever did any stumping or such.

My favorite shaft is the Carbon express heritage. You will save money if you fletch them yourself and you need top be able to cut and fletch arrows about like needing to be able to reload a rifle. You need to cut that arrow to tune it while bareshaft,before feathers.

The 150's I would think would work fine for you. I do know Lancasters archers use to would sell you just one arrow of a couple different spines if you weren't sure. I would call them and tell them all your info and try 3 carbons at their suggested everything. Just tell them you want a really tough carbon if they don't have the Heritage arrows. Look at heavier Gpp which should indicate an extra wrap and a stronger heavier arrow.

I do not shoot the hybrid arrows made of both aluminum and carbon. To me they have the faults of both and not as good as either in benefits. A big benefit of aluminum is ease of finding good tune. You can get there with carbons and they are well worth the effort when you do. They recover paradox faster and are much more durable unless you buy the super light weight target arrows.

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Thanks for the good info.

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When I can figure out the answer to your original question, I’ll be sure to let you know. wink

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Nice looking herd.

My Toelke is 'out for delivery', should be along in the next few hours.

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Looking forward to pics of that bad boy!

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It's here! I'll get some pics.

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