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What bullet would you start with for long range hogs and targets?
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For hogs, the 62 gr TTSX would be a good one. For target I would look at the 69 gr match king or something in the ELD line.
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Targets only after 250 yards... will it kill them further??? Absolutely... will you put the animal down immediately further out??? NO. I have shot an awful lot of .223 ammo on deer and hogs. LIMIT your range, and even then, they run a LOT of the time... I will not shoot head shots over 75 yards with this caliber... not saying it will not do the job further out - it will - but your margin of error is very slim.
Targets - shoot them at any distance you choose.
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I've seen very good accuracy with the Sierra 65 Game King in a 1 in 9" twist CZ using H4895 powder.
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Whats "long range'? You run out of energy pretty quick with the 223.
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I have a Bushmaster Predator with a 9" twist and the Sierra 69gr Matchking HP worked swell on prairie dogs/rabbits. I never used it on game though. I would agree that the 62gr Mono would be a great one on hogs/deer. I am one of those that believe a faster spin helps in killing power, especially in smaller calibers. I used the Hornady 68 OTM in a 9" twist 22-250 AI with fine results, its also a tough enough bullet to hunt game with. The 75gr Swift in a .224 TTH was awesome too, but it had an 8" twist. I never tried it in the Bushmaster.
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My 20" HBar 1/9 handles the Hornady 75gr BTHP and 77 Nosler. If those work for you it will add some BC and energy downrange,
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My 1:9 runs the 75 A-Max at 2950 fps. That load certainly isn’t limited to 250 yards.
If my barrel wouldn’t stabilize that bullet I would be running the Hornady 75gr HPBT Match.
Anybody who seriously concerns themselves with the adequacy of a Big 7mm for anything we hunt here short of brown bear, is a dufus. They are mostly making shidt up. Crunch! Nite-nite!
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Keep in mind that your range for hits and your range for bullet expansion are likely to be VERY different. TSX bullet usually don't expand much under about 2000 FPS at impact.
In some cases where all you are tying to do is get a bullet in them, it may not matter much. (like fighting the enemy instead of sport hunting) But if you are trying to harvest meat you should consider the BC of the TSX (around .286) and the muzzle velocity you can get with a long barreled AR and you'll see that if you start the bullet at about 3000 it is going 2000 at about 300 yards.
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What bullet would you start with for long range hogs and targets? Less COAL and Atmospheric particulars...the 75 Hornie HPBT. Hint...…………………..
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What bullet would you start with for long range hogs and targets? Less COAL and Atmospheric particulars...the 75 Hornie HPBT. Hint...………………….. Is this based on your experience killing hogs. Ya didn’t think so! Jesus sugartits when are you gonna suck start a glock and save everyone the BS. PS 😩😂
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I enjoy that you Mall Rat Valley Girls gotta read about 223's too. Congratulations?!?
LAUGHING!
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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The only thing I'd shoot at a hog around here out of a .223 is a barnes.
I'll defer to the experts shooting hogs in bumbfukk Alaska though......
BTW, again deferring to the western hunters that know everything about hunting every animal they've never seen, most hogs around here are shot at night or very last light which means close range, which means the B.C. of the bullet don't mean much.
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You'll defer to your "means","abilities" and "comprehension"...if only by default. Congratulations?!?
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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What bullet would you start with for long range hogs and targets? Less COAL and Atmospheric particulars...the 75 Hornie HPBT. Hint...………………….. I'm using this bullet myself. As for range like others have said short is better. I generally only shoot heads, necks and spine on feral hogs and this bullet so far is just fine if it hits bone. The deer I shot with it at 100 yards or so exhibited a pretty quick death but internal damage was not much, less than what I have seen with the 60 grain Hornady HP flat base bullet. It did exit though. Gearing up for another hog hunt out on my lease soon, mounted my night vision on a 5.56 AR and will use the 75 gr. Hornady BTHP.
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You Texans suck a mean ass. Congratulations?!?
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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You Texans suck a mean ass. Congratulations?!?
Hint................... So your talents include sucking enough ass to tell if the ass you suck is mean or not?
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You Texans suck a mean ass. Congratulations?!?
Hint................... So your talents include sucking enough ass to tell if the ass you suck is mean or not? Oh, you mean when he's toes to toes, his nose is in it? Or when he's nose to nose, his toes are in it?
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Didn't intend to horn you Fence Hoppers up. Congratulations?!?
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Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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