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That was a nice surprise I wasn't expecting on this rifle. Probably too much hassle getting this into the States. The US border cops always ask if you are bringing anything in with you.

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Both of my rifles have that safety. Not the fastest with a scope, and as mentioned a pain to disassemble compared to an M70-type, but on an iron-sighted rifle your thumb can disengage it almost like an exposed hammer, though it ain't quiet! I prefer it to the Buehler and clones as well.

I overloaded an H ring FN, no problem. www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9783854/1

Some changes since those photos. Now in a McWoody Classic Edge, 2.5-8x32 Conquest in Talley's. 23" Shilen #2.

DF

Nice rifle ........ What brand R&B are those?

Talley

DF

Thanks ....

Pat:
Frank DeHaas has a large interesting FN section in his book "Bolt Action Rifles." It is as good as any.

fwiw:
The FN commercial is as good as a mauser action as made for a build or the sporter as is. Most FN commercials lend themselves well to 06 length cartridges, are drilled and have a modern safety & trigger while many of the older military mausers are set-up from the get-go for the 8x57mm length. Post war FN used up their military stock and they also did custom orders. Firearms International sold the FN Deluxe as alternative to gunsmith produced conversions and so there are some interesting and desirable variations. Later came the FN Supremes in the late 50's and the Brownings by 1960 as well as others.

All were beautifully finished and imho, preferable to gunsmith conversions as general rule of thumb. For 06 length cartridges I tried to get my hands on Brownings for the actions that were relatively cheap as they had poor stocks ( a while back...). The Browning has the excellent M-70 trigger clone, and personally I prefer their rendition of the bolt release. Like many on the board have done a few military actions too, from the 1930's to early 1940's for the 57mm cases. Generally unless you want a 57mm length magazine, the myriad of military actions can hide more issues and will cost more for a build.

I also think the C ring thing is a moot point. Any rifle can be overloaded--we were all young once and the population has a given percent of idiots as a constant. For any older action, check for lug set-back.

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Kaywoodie: what is the story behind the side mount on the 146? Looks interesting...

I'm not the devilishly handsome and erudite Kaywoodie, but I do know a tiny bit about that side mount, so I will post it in the hopes more details will be added by somebody else - perhaps even Kaywoodie, if he isn't busy eating pie on this Father's Day. :-)

That is the standard mount you see on all these old rifles here in Sweden.

This mounting system is rock solid but, as you might expect from its height, means that the shooter has no cheek support. Thus, you also see a lot of stocks where a gunsmith has cut into the comb and added a piece of wood, refinishing to leave a Monte Carlo stock.

Many Swedish hunters have been hoodwinked in to thinking a modern Win-Rem-Ruger is a better rifle, so resale value on these old rifles is quite low. One can sometimes pick up one of these fine lightweight rifles with this mount for the equivalent of $US 140. (not a typo, the equivalent of one hundred forty US bucks)

This price often includes a cheap scope from the 1950's as well - a total period piece!

I've looked at 4 or 5 of these mounts quite carefully, and if they have a stamp or manufacturer name it must be hidden when mounted because I've not seen one.

There might even be more than one manufacturer -- the bluing seems to vary a lot, or perhaps the variation happened after the mount was made.

Cheers from Sweden,
John

Appreciate it John.

Lots of hoodwinking going on here, too. We call it marketing...:)

Are they screwed & pinned into the side rail like the vintage German mounts?

jpb,

Many of the Swedish rifles for sale here feature the holes in the side rail, but not the mounts, so go for a reduced price because the holes have to be filled for cosmetic reasons. kaywoodie's are the first I've seen that still had intact mounts. Just like the old rascal to come up with TWO nice rigs, when the rest of us can't even find one!

tomk: thanks for the info.
Lots of good info coming forth on this thread, a nice change!

Simpson's must be a prime hoodwinker, given that they import old rifles from Sweden in CONEX container lots..

www.simpsonltd.com

I have a 1960's vintage Remington 760 in 30-06 that came back from Sweden via Simpson's. It has a dozen or so decals on the stock that I understand are tags/licenses for hunting moose/elk and Capercaillie. Kind of a neat old rifle, one of those too good not to buy deals.

Sometime between 1967 and 1972 my Father had an 1896 Swedish Mauser sniper rifle with a high side mount and an Ajack scope. I failed to appreciate it for what it was and when I was interested in it, he had given it away to somebody.

Certainly Pat.

Maybe some nice elderly widow lady will ask you to to take that old Felix Funken signed FN Deluxe off her hands so she can buy her granddaughter a new pink bolt action 22...:)

“I'm not the devilishly handsome and erudite Kaywoodie”

I’m not that guy either! 🤣

I always thought they were just surplus Swedish military mounts. I had an old Model 96 back in the day (1974?) that was still full military with one of those mounts and a 3 post sniper scope on it. Like a 2X. Only difference is these mounts have been retrofitted with 1” rings. I believe one set of rings on one of these rifles are steel. And the other pair are anodized aluminum.


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Btw, those mounts are QD. One still has the rail QD levers on it for scope removal. The other has wing nuts fitted to it! LOL! Really!!! Wingnuts!!!!

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One of my most memorable hunts! And one of my fav pics. The x62 second season Colorado Rifle 2010.

That'll do...

For sure...

DF

I sure like that pic too kaywoodie!

Thanks.

That is what they look like --the vintage German sniper mounts. The 3-post (#1) was right popular with both the Germans & Russians. QD for removing the scope.

Nice bull, eh...:)

I have a 7x57 AI built on a 1914 FN action.

hi Tom

Hmmmmm, I don't know.

I never took one of these mounts off an action, so I will have a good careful look for pins the next time somebody brings one of these to the range! I will try to get some good pictures to post as well!

I do recall the finely-machined longitudinal dovetail that mated the top part of the mount (i.e. the one with the rings) to the bottom part, complete with recoil stop.

I'm sure they would maintain zero when removed and replaced very well -- not only was there a very positive integral recoil stop, but the longitudinal rail was a very tight fit.

Given the fogging tendency of the scopes which were readily available in the 1950's, I think hunters demanded a mounting system which would shoot to the same point of impact after removal and replacement. Alternatively, maybe the average hunter simply didn't trust these new-fangled optical sights!

John
PS: My comments are regarding the all-steel mounts, not the aluminum ones