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A friend has just advised me he has brought his first 1899 Not sure if I'm excited for him or sad that he will now be stuck with an addiction for the rest of his life He hopes to send some photos soon The thing that interests me is the serial Number 93,170 which to my knowledge is very early for a 22Hp I would guess it will be a 1899-H T/D Anybody shed more light on the Serial Number Many thanks
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There seems to be a bit of a disconnect between the s.n. and the introduction of the 22HP. 1908 & 1912 +/-. The barrel address may shed some light on the matter.
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Trying to give this gentalman some direction sent a scan of the barrel address page in Murry's for him to identify Next I'll get him to take the forewood off to see whats there As per photos it has been reworked redone etc Might be a good shooter
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That rifle has been tortured !!!!!! not much left alone on it! i do hope it shoots good.
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He just replied to say the barrel address is No3. but to me the foresight is wrong for a No3 I might have to wait a month or 2 till I see him and dissect it properly
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The receiver, lever, butt stock and brl (if marked) look original. Front sight base has been added...maybe to a cut barrel. And what is the groove cut in the underside of the barrel at the front sight?
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He just emailed me to say he took the fore wood of and it is stamped 93,170 So it's not a take down I think I had better look into this more
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I had a round barreled 1899 with that same groove at the first Savage Fest. No one there could answer "why"?
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I had a round barreled 1899 with that same groove at the first Savage Fest. No one there could answer "why"?
Doug What model and cal was yours Doug One thing he did say there was an R inside a circle behind the trigger Where? An inspectors mark I would assume
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Rick I have some 1899 or 99 with the grove under the barrel
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Always more questions than answers...keeps things interesting.
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A groove like that in the barrel to me screams out "I had a barrel band!!!!".
But that doesn't make sense.
Naturally it could be other things. For example, I can see somebody creating a sling mount using a groove to brace the stud.
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How about an optical front sight mount
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Starting to get a bit confusing this is his last email
I have removed again the fore wood and also the butt. First the the last three numbers of the serial no 170 is marked on the inside of the gun.
Second, when the fore arm is removed, there is the word OFF typed into the barrel by the receiver with an arrow going from left to right indicating the direction of barrel removal. There is also a groove cut into the barrel where a designed tool could go to turn the barrel. I hope this makes sense,..............will send more photos when daughter returns home.
I hope to pick it up to inspect in the next couple of weeks so will give a full report then
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I just got my first cup of coffee in front of me, and I can't think of the proper name of the lug that locks into the barrel when the bolt is closed. That sounds like the groove he's seeing by the word off. It's not for a barrel removal tool, it's for the locking lug.
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Yes Joe i would agree. He has never owned a Savage 1899 before and know nothing about them. But I need to inspect to see if the is a dovetail slot for the take down latch Also strange that the forearm is numbered to the rifle but not a take down and such an early Serial No
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That word "off" with an arrow was imprinted on takedown barrels, of which most .22HP's were sold as. Savage simply grabbed those barrels off the shelf for use on solid frame guns rather than make all new barrels for those solid frame guns. You'll see that on other caliber rifles also, usually when using up old inventories of takedown barrels for whose guns were discontinued. Savage was just being fiscally prudent.
Ditto the presence of the groove milled into the barrel aft of the "off" and arrow. That is simply the index slot cut into a TD barrel into which the stud on the TD forearm iron fits to lock it in position. All of that is superfluous when the barrel is torqued permanently into the receiver when using the TD barrel to build a non-TD rifle. (And in a TD rifle that groove/slot has no function in the removal of the barrel, it's there strictly for indexing purposes.)
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