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Winchester recently introduced a new semi auto 22 rimfire called the wild cat, has anyone purchased one and if so is it worth it.
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No, but with 2 really good and proven .22 semi-autos on the market, is there room, demand, or need for any more of them at the lower end of the price hierarchy?
Unless Winchester is giving their rifles away, I can't any reason to buy one when anyone who can legally own a firearm can buy Marlin 60s for around $160, or $190 in "stainless", and 10/22s for around $210 almost any day at a W-M that sells firearms.
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Don't know if it's needed but I just looked at it on the Winchester site and it has a lot of innovations that appeal to the younger shooters, like the molded in picatinny rail on the receiver and the forend. Seems like they looked at the few things missing from a 10/22 and added those, like the easily removable action to clean the barrel from the rear and a reversible safety. The built in peep sight isn't something you see very often these days. It even takes 10/22 magazines. The looks sure aren't my cup of tea but again the younger demographic they're obviously aiming for prefers that look.
MSRP is $249.99 so street price will probably be real competitive with the Marlin or 10/22.
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Let's not forget that T/C also has a 10/22 varietal out there now. I've only seen one T/C, but it seemed pretty slick. The ejector looked to be a weak spot, though. It looks like that sector is getting pretty crowded. Ruger has, what? 90-100 variations of their own?
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Let's not forget that T/C also has a 10/22 varietal out there now. I've only seen one T/C, but it seemed pretty slick. The ejector looked to be a weak spot, though. It looks like that sector is getting pretty crowded. Ruger has, what? 90-100 variations of their own? The 10/22 is the ultimate, or damn close to the ultimate, modular rifle for a tinkerer to tinker with. With five basic components; action, barrel, bolt, stock, and trigger, being easily swapped out for a plethora of factory and after-market parts that are only limited by the tinkerer's imagination and budget. I don't wish Winchester any ill will, but I think that this Wildcat is going to have a hard time earning a share of a full market niche.
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Gonna have to be pretty special in some way to make much of a dent. Besides the two you mentioned, there are a slew of AR look-alikes to contend with. Without some sort of "hook" to market them with, it's gonna be tough sledding.
I smell a CDNN "opportunity" brewing.
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I agree that the 22LR automatic market will be a tough nut for Winchester to crack.
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Looked at it on their site. Oogly has a name, and it's Wildcat.
Lots of plastic. Takes extended 10/22 mags; didn't mention standard ones that I saw, but my eyes wouldn't let me linger. Has a integrated rail with a peep sight, and a short rail up by the front swivel.
No doubt some will find it compelling, but not this old Luddite. Maybe if CDNN has them on Special, really cheap, and I'm feeling flush and bored.
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Looked at it on their site. Oogly has a name, and it's Wildcat.
Lots of plastic. Takes extended 10/22 mags; didn't mention standard ones that I saw, but my eyes wouldn't let me linger. Has a integrated rail with a peep sight, and a short rail up by the front swivel.
No doubt some will find it compelling, but not this old Luddite. Maybe if CDNN has them on Special, really cheap, and I'm feeling flush and bored. I couldn't had expressed my own thought about this new rifle any better. I currently find myself with 17 10/22s, 1 Marlin 60SS, and 1 Marlin 795, plus another 10 semi-auto .22 rifles, and another 37 .22 rifles with bolt, lever, pump, and single shot actions. This new Wildcat would have to be really special or really, really, inexpensive to prompt me to buy one. The .22 that I'm planning to take to CO on Thursday is a 10/22 with a BX trigger, a GM barrel, installed in an American style modular stock.
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Well, I though I was gonna get to see one saturday. They are showing in my recent bps catalog I got in the mail. Guy at the counter had no idea what I was talking about.
The new TC, the wildcat, and bergara coming out are all supposed to take the standard magazines.
I own the TC, but haven't shot it yet. Did pick up a FFii to top it off with. Real light gun compared to my other auto 22s, my boys should be able to handle it fine.
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I subscribe to both Shooting times and Guns and ammo, hoping that one of them tests and reviews it.
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I subscribe to both Shooting times and Guns and ammo, hoping that one of them tests and reviews it. And what, pray tell, would that tell you? Have you ever read a poor review in either of those two magazines? Not since the early 1970s, when Jeff Cooper dared to write poor reviews, have they published a bad review.
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If Winchester wanted to do something good they should bring back the 94/22.It was an outstanding rimfire rifle.
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If Winchester wanted to do something good they should bring back the 94/22.It was an outstanding rimfire rifle. It would be "cost prohibitive" when you can buy a Henry for a lot less money. Marlin still "catalogs" the 39A, but it's supposedly built in the Dakota facility now, and costs $3000. Winchester would probably have to charge $2000 for one.
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Just wishful thinking about the 94/22.I had one when I was a Kidd and really miss the little rifle.
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Looked at it on their site. Oogly has a name, and it's Wildcat.
Lots of plastic. Takes extended 10/22 mags; didn't mention standard ones that I saw, but my eyes wouldn't let me linger. Has a integrated rail with a peep sight, and a short rail up by the front swivel.
No doubt some will find it compelling, but not this old Luddite. Maybe if CDNN has them on Special, really cheap, and I'm feeling flush and bored. I couldn't had expressed my own thought about this new rifle any better. I currently find myself with 17 10/22s, 1 Marlin 60SS, and 1 Marlin 795, plus another 10 semi-auto .22 rifles, and another 37 .22 rifles with bolt, lever, pump, and single shot actions. This new Wildcat would have to be really special or really, really, inexpensive to prompt me to buy one. The .22 that I'm planning to take to CO on Thursday is a 10/22 with a BX trigger, a GM barrel, installed in an American style modular stock. 66 .22 rifles? Wow.
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