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Oh ok all if forgiving then. lets pretend this didn't happen then or lets just downplay it. Of all the atrocities of Hitler's Third Reich, Treblinka is one of the most mind-boggling. Historians estimate that about 900,000 Jews were murdered at this concentration camp in Nazi-occupied Poland over a mere 16 months

If any were gassed at Dachau it wasn’t many. Only 31,951 people died at Dachau with 15,000 of those being from November 1944 to the end of the war.

Yeah because they shipped most if not all of them to Poland to be executed. I truly don't understand you, you downplay oh only 31,951 died at this camp so yeah the Germans weren't that bad. Then you run off at the mouth with the whole the allies killed more civilians on there bombing runs. WTF is wrong with you.. the allies were not systematically lining people up and shipping them off to be gassed.

Look up the phrase TOTAL WAR.

JoeBob, I agree that “it wasn’t many” that were gassed, hung, shot or otherwise murdered at Dachau, it wasn’t the type of camp that Treblinka was but it is a good and living representation of the atrocities that happened albeit on a much smaller and more “civilized” scale. 😉

I can tell you that being there was an extraordinarily moving experience for me and I don’t have any personal affection for Jews, gypsies or homosexuals.. My affections are for humanity and to that extent I’m not ashamed to admit that I cried. No innocent person of any religion or persuasion should suffer the kind inhumanity that those camps brought down upon them.

Oftentimes when discussing this atrocity we focus on those that died there and forget about those that survived. Those that were raped, starved and tortured or those that survived the horrors of their experiments are considered “lucky”. The pain that the living and dead suffered is beyond my comprehension as is my ability to understand how one human being can to do such grotesque things to another human being. God forbid you were a child with a twin brother or sister, your short life would likely end slowly and painfully.

I’ve been there. It’s a few miles from Munich.

JoeBob, Your attempt at drawing a moral equivalence between bombing and the systematic extermination of millions of men, women and children in gas chambers or firing squads or the smashing of infants against a light post is ridiculous. Jorge addressed the strategic goal of the bombing campaign. I’m sure that if “we” had the choice back then we would’ve preferred that the only deaths would’ve been those of enemy combatants. In a “perfect war” there’d be no civilian casualties but there’s no such thing. We didn’t want to kill innocent French civilians, we weren’t at war with France but dropping bombs in our attempt to soften the German defenses in prelude to our landing in Normandy meant that many civilians died. That’s the terrible thing about war, innocent people die. The death of civilians in war is inevitable and is, in and of itself, not a war crime. Targeting ONLY innocent civilians, civilians in the “care and custody” of the military is a crime and the Germans turned that into an art form.

I have no idea WTF you're babbling about at this point.

This thread was about a documentary regarding Nazi Death Squads. Some people want to claim they didn't exist.

They did.

Ron, the only point I've tried to make in my posts on this thread has been that the Nazis were not the only criminals in WW2. Stalin's, and later on Mao's, policies that led to the deaths of millions of innocent peoples, resulted in far more deaths than the Germans could muster. But, because of the Jew's insistence that the Holocaust must be the only one that matters, the world cares very little about anything else.

Auschwitz, 437,402 Hungarian Jews were killed between May 14th and July 8th, 1944. Yeah those Germans were just a bunch of fun loving guys looking to have a great time..

See, it’s stuff like this that allows the disinformation to creep in. Dachau was not an extermination camp for Jews. It was a concentration camp for political prisoners. The extermination camps were in the East. Dachau was just outside Munich. There were only (yeah I know) 32,000 documented deaths at Dachau. The Jews found at Dachau at the end of the war were transferred from the East ahead of the advancing Russians and the mounds of bodies were because those poor malnourished wretches from the East succumbed to a cholera and typhoid epidemic.

That is all documented and easily proved. And it also provides fodder for Holocaust deniers who can say that there never were any extermination camps when you throw around Dachau as an example of an extermination camp. The real extermination camps for the most part, were liberated by the Russians who hardly mentioned them at the time.

I don't see the sense of comparing the allied bombing campaign to the attempted extermination of the Jews. While bombing cities is abhorrent, it is the way wars are conducted. Genocide, on the other hand, is in no way a component of warfare---and especially within your own borders. Definitely not apples to apples.

The evidence was in black and white and signed. The Germans were meticulous record keepers and their attention to detail sealed their fate. Literally tons of documents that spelled it out plainly and accounted for virtually every victim were more than enough evidence to convict the accused. A confession is NOT required for conviction, the millions of pages of documents were more than enough evidence for a conviction. None of those on trial ever denied that it happened or denied their role in it they merely used the “I was ordered to do it” defense. None of the accused expressed any remorse but rather they said they’d do it again “to my own sister if ordered”.