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Hey, this is a serious scope thread, knock it off!

No serious Optics thread can be completed without a dick-measuring contest.

TruDat!

Funny that optics and dick measuring seem to go together, isn't it?

Looking at the bright side, being optimistic....

Doug,

I'm looking forward to your report. What is the status of the feedback from Leupold?

Thanks,

Jason

Bueller?"......."...Bueller?

Jason

I believe Doug will open a new thread when he hears from them.

Leupold has been hard up against it for a long time... Chinese counterfeits (sold cheap at gun shows) have trashed Leupold's reputation without the idiots (that are buying the counterfeits even knowing they weren't actually Leopolds).

Years ago there was a Swap Meet called Shomeys in Middleton Ohio... many things on display and many things "wink and nod" behind the table...

Anyway, one day... plain closed FBI came into the show... quietly proceeded to all the exits and secured the perimeter...

THEN they announced themselves...

All the vendors kicking stuff into bags under the tables etc.

They went to ONE VENDOR ONLY... a guy selling $20 Roloxs (i.e. counterfeit Rolexs)... took him away in cuff... took all his stuff.

Seems Rolex had had just about enough.

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I gather from the scuttlebutt that Rolex had put out a bounty (AND OVERTIME PAY) on such vendors...

Kinda felt sorry for the guy... everybody knew his stuff was Rolox (even spelled that way).

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China manufacturing can clone about anything... that is also a killer. And at $5 a day on labor (or whatever it is) damn hard for anyone to compete.

The least of Leupolds problems are counterfeit scopes, their main problem is that put junk internal components into what would otherwise be a good scope!

I'ts not Leupy's fault there are Chinese counterfeits being made. A few years ago when Zen Ray had it's high end spotter, the eyepiece they made for it was a dead ringer for Swaro's 82ED eyepiece....they were interchangeable. I highly doubt Swaro like that very much. The Chinese basically dare you to do anything about it.

As far as China goes, just knock them back into the 7th century. Might even be able to pull that off with a Leupold scope.

I use Vortex 1st gen razor eyepieces on my Swaro spotters.....

I didn't know they would fit too. I doubt Swaro signed off on that either though.

Swaro has locked up all common thread sizes and pitches?

Shaking my head...

Having trouble finding anything on this and have several problems with the tale...

First, Rolex does not own "Rolox" just because they make a similar name. There are MANY products in many categories with similar names for that obvious reason and many are done to obfuscate openly. I find to hard to imagine what they could possibly charge the vendor with. I find no references on the internet to "Rolox", etc. Do you have a link or reference to this?

For 20+ years I was a diehard Leupold supporter using them on all of my rifle builds with great results. Dating back to 2016, four of the last seven Leupold scopes purchased among the group of guys that I shoot with came out of the box not working or broke within the first several range sessions. All were purchased through the Leupold Govt/Mil program except for one which came from Cabelas. The issues included:

1. MK4 6.5-20: Erector assembly non-functional on first use.

2. VX5 3-15: Elevation and windage non-functional on first use. For example 4 clicks up and 4 clicks right would move the POI 7 inches up and 2 inches right. Next adjustment was equally as random.

3. VX3I 3-5-10: Elevation knob non-functional on first use. Extremely difficult to turn and not enough adjustment to available to zero at 50m.

4. MK AR 6-18: Internal seal failed somewhere and scope turned yellow on 3rd or 4th range session on a 223.

Given the frustration of these events, I have all but given up on Leupold and gone to Swarovski and Steiner for my recent purchases. I will say that in all fairness, on a recent trip to Africa, the only two scopes that maintained their zero on the two-day trip were both older VariX-3s; all others, including Z8 Swarovsks and S&B Ultra Shorts were off by a couple inches during sight in. I WANT to buy a 3.6-18 MK5 but I just don't trust the performance enough to risk the results of a hunt on a new Leupold. Fix the guts and bring back the options for custom shop reticles on the higher end models and win back people like me....

There's a bit more to it than thread pitch.

There may not be threads at all. My Minox spotter doesn't use threads to hold the eyepiece.

Correct. It's just a simple quick-release mechanism.