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Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...


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Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Trystan
When the trend in shooting turned to long range leupold was exposed for the schit that it really is. Why they didn't see that coming is beyond me. For over 20 years now I've bought better scopes for less money. Its a simple calculation! The grandpa's said let's build quality! The youngsters said let's make more money! Always better to work hard to earn your living and that's something that will last. Everything that turns to schit will dry up and blow away in the wind


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What brand are you using?


Weiver K4 never failed on a 45/70 shoots tight
Zeiss Conquest 3-9 treated me well still shoots tight groups
Zeiss Terra3 failed after one fall
Redfield 3-9 schit
Older Leupold FX111 is still working but groups opening a bit
Newer Leupold VX2 isn't broke but won t hold a tight group
Vortex 4-16 was schit right outta the box
2 SWFA 1O's still dialing with precision 12 years later
SWFA 6 same 3 years in
SWFA 2-10 Superlight working like clockwork but not enouph time to tell

Every piece of schit that is suspect gets compared to the spare SWFA 10 and the results speak for themselves. Schit scopes are plentiful and the biggest problem is leupold is more of the same for $100 more

My latest fun factor is showing my diehard leupold buddies what happens when I simply pull the piece of schit off there rifle and mount the fixed 10 SWFA. I also have a Lot of buddies useing Vortex scopes. They have been having better luck than my leupold friends but we've been finding all the usual schit scope issues still show up on a surprising number of scopes it just takes a little longer. I've
been saleing a lot of SWFA scopes and I haven't found anyone interested in trading the reliability for the weight savings. There was a time when I considered it but after seeing to much anecdotal evidence there is zero chance I'm going to walk down that road. My main hunting rifle I use a SWFA 6 and IMO there isn't a better scope made that covers all my hunting needs More reliably and for a reasonable price

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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...

The rubber felt tip will fall off........

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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Trystan
When the trend in shooting turned to long range leupold was exposed for the schit that it really is. Why they didn't see that coming is beyond me. For over 20 years now I've bought better scopes for less money. Its a simple calculation! The grandpa's said let's build quality! The youngsters said let's make more money! Always better to work hard to earn your living and that's something that will last. Everything that turns to schit will dry up and blow away in the wind


Trystan

What brand are you using?


Well, on 3.24.19 he was recommending others to buy Leupold schit that was made by the current clan. But remember, only inside 400 yards, because that isn't LR and the LR trend must have started after March 24, 2019.

More than a little schit has been written on this thread.

Originally Posted by Trystan
I'm very pleased with my 6 SWFA. Crystal clear at 10 yds. I went with 30 mm Warne mediums and scope clearance is about 3/16" on my 6.5X55 Tikka

Honestly though if I wasn't dialing for shots over 400 yds I'd go with a Leupold 6X36 for the big weight savings


Trystan



Its more than obvious to you that leupold is still a rockstar? Thats why Doug up and posted this thread outta his ass for no reason at all. I guarantee you leupold is listening with open ears and a future of what used to be a leading company is at stake. Hopefully they will get it all sorted and continue for many years to come


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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...

Or a fanny pack


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Originally Posted by alwaysoutdoors
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...

Or a fanny pack


Neoprene scope cover...

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Easy now, I give all mine to my dad!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


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Originally Posted by Judman
Easy now, I give all mine to my dad!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thatโ€™s one thing they do make that has some use...

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Originally Posted by renegade50
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...

The rubber felt tip will fall off........

Blue tape will dandy it up!


Originally Posted by elkhuntinguide
Originally Posted by Judman
Easy now, I give all mine to my dad!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

Thatโ€™s one thing they do make that has some use...

I like the black clothes.Just wrap junk up in them and throw into a drawer or box knowing that it'll be protected....

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Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...


Yeah, but who wants a shirt that says Leupold: The real meaning of erectile disfunction....... whistle


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I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
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Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by MtnBoomer
Originally Posted by JDK
After reading this thread I suspect Leupold will thank Doug for passing along the information and send him a tee shirt.


Or maybe one of those lens cleaning pens...


Yeah, but who wants a shirt that says Leupold: The real meaning of erectile disfunction....... whistle

Are you saying Leupold can add misspelling to their other woes?

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I have started a new thread with a follow up.


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Originally Posted by Trystan
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Trystan
When the trend in shooting turned to long range leupold was exposed for the schit that it really is. Why they didn't see that coming is beyond me. For over 20 years now I've bought better scopes for less money. Its a simple calculation! The grandpa's said let's build quality! The youngsters said let's make more money! Always better to work hard to earn your living and that's something that will last. Everything that turns to schit will dry up and blow away in the wind


Trystan

What brand are you using?


Well, on 3.24.19 he was recommending others to buy Leupold schit that was made by the current clan. But remember, only inside 400 yards, because that isn't LR and the LR trend must have started after March 24, 2019.

More than a little schit has been written on this thread.

Originally Posted by Trystan
I'm very pleased with my 6 SWFA. Crystal clear at 10 yds. I went with 30 mm Warne mediums and scope clearance is about 3/16" on my 6.5X55 Tikka

Honestly though if I wasn't dialing for shots over 400 yds I'd go with a Leupold 6X36 for the big weight savings


Trystan



Its more than obvious to you that leupold is still a rockstar? Thats why Doug up and posted this thread outta his ass for no reason at all. I guarantee you leupold is listening with open ears and a future of what used to be a leading company is at stake. Hopefully they will get it all sorted and continue for many years to come



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Did nothing more than quote an inconsistency with regards one of your posts. Can someone change their opinion in approx 3months? I won't be the one who says you can't.

As far as Leupold being a rockstar, they have and continue to serve my needs. Room for improvement? Always will be. You don't have to guarantee me anything about leupold listening. Doug sent them all relevant posts. So I have little need for your guarantee.

The future of a leading company at stake? Being generous, there are maybe 200 people on this forum who consistently bash Leupold. The vast majority of the other, what 15,000 members have little problem with Leupold and their future at the moment is much more secure than SWFA in the long run. Then again, there are more than a few here who think they are special because they are 24hr card carrying members and the rest of the outsiders are a bunch of know nothings. They really need to get out more.

Now again, they can improve and over time I'm sure they will find ways to do exactly that, but there is little doubt they will be here "for many years to come". The shooting world is much bigger than the 24hour campfire malcontents and Leupold offers a larger variety of scopes than any other of the companies mentioned. Are they the current rockstar of the dedicated LR Shooters? Certainly not, but they cover more bases than any other scope company when it comes to different offerings, most of which are reasonably priced and serve the needs of the vast majority of hunters and shooters. I have little reason to think they will be gone under soon and I guarantee it.

Now, would it be wise for them to pay attention to "some" of the ramblings here? Most certainly, a better quality product, while still being offered at a reasonable price is never bad for business.

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Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by Trystan
Originally Posted by battue
Originally Posted by ironbender
Originally Posted by Trystan
When the trend in shooting turned to long range leupold was exposed for the schit that it really is. Why they didn't see that coming is beyond me. For over 20 years now I've bought better scopes for less money. Its a simple calculation! The grandpa's said let's build quality! The youngsters said let's make more money! Always better to work hard to earn your living and that's something that will last. Everything that turns to schit will dry up and blow away in the wind


Trystan

What brand are you using?


Well, on 3.24.19 he was recommending others to buy Leupold schit that was made by the current clan. But remember, only inside 400 yards, because that isn't LR and the LR trend must have started after March 24, 2019.

More than a little schit has been written on this thread.

Originally Posted by Trystan
I'm very pleased with my 6 SWFA. Crystal clear at 10 yds. I went with 30 mm Warne mediums and scope clearance is about 3/16" on my 6.5X55 Tikka

Honestly though if I wasn't dialing for shots over 400 yds I'd go with a Leupold 6X36 for the big weight savings


Trystan



Its more than obvious to you that leupold is still a rockstar? Thats why Doug up and posted this thread outta his ass for no reason at all. I guarantee you leupold is listening with open ears and a future of what used to be a leading company is at stake. Hopefully they will get it all sorted and continue for many years to come



Trystan


Did nothing more than quote an inconsistency with regards one of your posts. Can someone change their opinion in approx 3months? I won't be the one who says you can't.

As far as Leupold being a rockstar, they have and continue to serve my needs. Room for improvement? Always will be. You don't have to guarantee me anything about leupold listening. Doug sent them all relevant posts. So I have little need for your guarantee.

The future of a leading company at stake? Being generous, there are maybe 200 people on this forum who consistently bash Leupold. The vast majority of the other, what 15,000 members have little problem with Leupold and their future at the moment is much more secure than SWFA in the long run. Then again, there are more than a few here who think they are special because they are 24hr card carrying members and the rest of the outsiders are a bunch of know nothings. They really need to get out more.

Now again, they can improve and over time I'm sure they will find ways to do exactly that, but there is little doubt they will be here "for many years to come". The shooting world is much bigger than the 24hour campfire malcontents and Leupold offers a larger variety of scopes than any other of the companies mentioned. Are they the current rockstar of the dedicated LR Shooters? Certainly not, but they cover more bases than any other scope company when it comes to different offerings, most of which are reasonably priced and serve the needs of the vast majority of hunters and shooters. I have little reason to think they will be gone under soon and I guarantee it.

Now, would it be wise for them to pay attention to "some" of the ramblings here? Most certainly, a better quality product, while still being offered at a reasonable price is never bad for business.



No! What you did was take my recommendation of a fixed power set and forget leupold scope and assumingly turned it into something it wasn't! You said I'm a leupold supporter but your wrong. If you look thru any post I've ever posted I have ONLY ever recommended the fixed power leupolds and NEVER have I ever recommended any other leupold scope.

That sir is a far cry from being a leupold supporter

With that said I do hope it goes well for Leupold



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I'd be glad to give an honest evaluation, but it's already been done a million times.

The new line, bro.


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