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Are the buttplates all over the place? Do they stop being metal and having the “Savage” and Injun head insignia on them?

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Originally Posted by Rick99
Rory, I suggest that you made the 1960, 1961 E's made on the pre-mil receivers all as Style #1,( a -EG forearm, b - F forearm, c - 1961 LBC, d - misc as we have seen some that are different, David has a pair).

They all are walnut, have pads on the side with counter windows. The new E's Style #2 do not.


Also, those two twin EG forearm Es the David now has, have metal butt plates; I think all the other 99Es we've seen, including that 250-3000 with the EG forearm that we saw last year (maybe 2 years ago) have plastic butt plates on them.

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Are the buttplates all over the place? Do they stop being metal and having the “Savage” and Injun head insignia on them?

Harry that's a whole different topic other than 99Es ... but they did vary over time from the very beginning.

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Take #2.. David, I'm going to leave the 99E/S out of this, as I think it's different - just like the 1950's 99RS is different than the 1950's 99R. They should have their own list of variations.

Style 1: As catalogued in 1960, uncheckered EG style stock, premil receivers (so far)

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Style 2: A "99F style" uncheckered stock, usually or always with premil receivers, has side panels on buttstock.

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Style 3: a plain uncheckered stock, never with premil receivers, has either no side panels on buttstock or a vague side panel with no distinct edges, no cartridge counter..

1961 -- 10303xx (Style 3)
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1962 -- 10419xx (Style 3)
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Style 4: Birch stock, double diamond checkering, no side panels on buttstock
1968 -- 11646xx (Style 4(a), started in 1964?), no border on checkering
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1969 -- A2299xx (Style 4b, border on checkering)
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1969 -- A2551xx (Style 4b, border on checkering)
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1979 -- D0005xx (Style 5?)
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Style 6? Borrowed from gunbroker. No cartridge counter, supposed a 1976 rifle but can't read serial. Considering I just found a style 5 99E dating to summer of 1978, doubting this is 1976.
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1981 - Style 6? on gunsinternational. 1980-1981+ makes much more sense and is in line with the 99C timeline.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/943952718/SAVAGE-99E-LEVER-ACTION-243-WIN.htm
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We're missing the "blond" or "yellow" 99E's. Anybody know off hand the serial number ranges for those?

Found one:

Here's a yellow stock. Can't see a serial number off this, but seems like a variation of style 3.
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/814136513
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My 1965 uncheckered E has the blond stock. I'll try to take a photo of it and post it later. Serial 11052xx. I never thought these rifles would get this much attention other than the 1960/61 pre-mil serial numbers.


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I show 11052xx as 1966. Interesting, would have expected double diamond checkering that year. But we have so little info on 99E's we don't know when any features started/stopped.

99E's won't ever get a lot of attention.. but hopefully folks can take a few minutes to help add to this thread.


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11052xx has an S LBC which is 1965
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closeup of stock. I have seen several of these blond stock guns but thought maybe this one had had the stain removed and had been revarnished.
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closeup of cheap rear sight.
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for comparison purposed here is a closeup of the 99E/S sight
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My three later E's made from 1965 to 1969 have the cheap plastic buttplate that doesn't have the Savage name on them. I remember seeing what appeared to be an E with lazer checked walnut stock, steel buttplate and a round counter. The serial number placed it about 1984. The only models produced then were the E and C. I thought it was made up with leftover parts from the brush gun or 99A. I can't remember what type forend it had.

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E's are what they are. At least they are still the same action as other lever safety versions. Economy didn't just hurt the 99, all manufacturers were forced to cut costs.. I am as guilty as the next guy avoiding post mil guns, but you can't have a collection without including all if you want things to be complete. I just have a problem warming up to them.


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LBK, having a complete collection is why I bought the 1965 E and 1966 E/S. They are ugly but shoot every bit as good as the other 99's including pre-mils.


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Did the "yellow stocked E's" ship that way or did they have a crappy walnut coating that has been removed because it was not durable? You will see some of the 99-H's with yellow (non-walnut) stocks for the same reason.


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They were shipped that way. Birch wood is rather difficult to stain.


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Originally Posted by wyo1895
LBK, having a complete collection is why I bought the 1965 E and 1966 E/S. They are ugly but shoot every bit as good as the other 99's including pre-mils.



There are only TWO things that are required to be a collector. MONEY and the willingless to SPEND it. No looking back.


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Originally Posted by wyo1895
My 1965 uncheckered E has the blond stock. I'll try to take a photo of it and post it later. Serial 11052xx. I never thought these rifles would get this much attention other than the 1960/61 pre-mil serial numbers.


Me neither too. One of these days you guys will discover the DL's, then I won't be able to find any a them neither too. .

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My 1965 uncheckered E has the blond stock. I'll try to take a photo of it and post it later. Serial 11052xx. I never thought these rifles would get this much attention other than the 1960/61 pre-mil serial numbers.


Me neither too. One of these days you guys will discover the DL's, then I won't be able to find any a them neither too. .


We are keeping the prices low for you Roy

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The DLs aren’t nearly the unexplored mystery that the 99E is.


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Originally Posted by Calhoun
We're missing the "blond" or "yellow" 99E's. Anybody know off hand the serial number ranges for those?


I don't know the range, but can provide a data point, 10593xx is blond.

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Late ‘62? And David’s is late 1965.

Wonder if these might be isolated rifles where the stocks just didn’t the stain/finish properly, rather than a tight range? I’m sure we don’t have 3 yrs of production on them.

Unexplored mysteries.. grin

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Here's 10176xx - not sure, stained birch or walnut?

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