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Where do you get the idea God has no jealousy? God tells us "My name is Jealous because I am a jealous God." (Exodus 34) You are anthropomorphizing God. You, and most including Christians, are missing the concept that God is Infinite. He fills the universe. Even the "space" between electrons and proton. That means when He loves He loves infinitely. Consider He set a rule that death is the punishment for sin and man's death cannot atone for his own sin. That's His rule and we can't do a thing to change it. So He sent His only Begotten Son to die for that punishment as a propitiation for all who will accept His Gift of His Son. When He hates He hates infinitely. Consider the Flood of Noah's time. Beautiful virgins, cute kittens, cuddly puppies, mean old men and caring mothers, lions, tigers, bears and yes even dinosaurs were all treated the same. We find their fossils in water born sediments all over the world.
There were dinosaurs on the Earth 4000 years ago? Why did the aquatic dinosaurs not survive the flood as the fishes did?
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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Where do you get the idea God has no jealousy? God tells us "My name is Jealous because I am a jealous God." (Exodus 34) You are anthropomorphizing God. You, and most including Christians, are missing the concept that God is Infinite. He fills the universe. Even the "space" between electrons and proton. That means when He loves He loves infinitely. Consider He set a rule that death is the punishment for sin and man's death cannot atone for his own sin. That's His rule and we can't do a thing to change it. So He sent His only Begotten Son to die for that punishment as a propitiation for all who will accept His Gift of His Son. When He hates He hates infinitely. Consider the Flood of Noah's time. Beautiful virgins, cute kittens, cuddly puppies, mean old men and caring mothers, lions, tigers, bears and yes even dinosaurs were all treated the same. We find their fossils in water born sediments all over the world.
There were dinosaurs on the Earth 4000 years ago? Why did the aquatic dinosaurs not survive the flood as the fishes did? They couldnt dive deep enough for sea weed and they floated over areas mesquite and pine and with no seaweed to eat. Duh. 
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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24 pages and not a single fact to prove there is a "god". Only the bible said this and that. It seems that once you are brainwashed into believing there is a god what you believe and fictional books become facts. Can't believers just say I believe in god but have no proof ? Will this stimulate 24 more pages of no facts? Heck, I'm not even asking for proof, just some good evidence. They can't even produce that.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Believers have told you, including me, many times God said for us to believe in His word as a child and purposely gave us no real proof.
A little child has no scientific proof it can read to trust in its parent but it does.
He didnt want to force stiff necks to do His bidding, wanting you to submit to His will out of love.
A little child wont last long without depending on its provider and neither will you.
And yes, you ask for proof (scientific, specifically) over and like a broken record and then you lie.
We try to provide empirical proof by recalling prophecy fulfilled, yet you prefer to hold on to the one chance in a trillion trillion they were lucky coincidences.
As He said, you fall in your own trap.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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Believers sound like politicians when they answer a hard question,give an answer that has nothing to do with the question.
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I havent read the entire thread but answered him according to what it appeared to me he just said.
Regardless, because of Him i dont need to worry about it.
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
I Dindo Nuffin
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People who aren't Bible-believing Christians can say and think what they like for themselves, but they can't expect us not to defend our religion, our tradition, our history is something precious to us, and we don't care to have fools who are ignorant of our tradition and our history to pass off their ignorance as valid opinion.
The part I can't handle is being told that I am too dumb to understand what some self-proclaimed "Teacher" is proclaiming as the truth. Too dumb to understand there are NO contradictions in the Bible. None what so ever. Total Bull... i know a contradiction when I see one. The contradiction between the blood thirsty God of the old testament and the teachings of Jesus are what I find the most troubling.
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“In Trump We Trust.” Right????
SOMEBODY please tell TRH that Netanyahu NEVER said "Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away."
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24 pages and not a single fact to prove there is a "god". Only the bible said this and that. It seems that once you are brainwashed into believing there is a god what you believe and fictional books become facts. Can't believers just say I believe in god but have no proof ? Will this stimulate 24 more pages of no facts? Heck, I'm not even asking for proof, just some good evidence. They can't even produce that. Nah, the evidence for a Creator is right in front of you but you choose not to acknowledge it. Which is crazier..... “God created the world”. Or the “The world came into existence from ‘nothing’.....’nothing created everything we see” And don’t start that Magic Larry business again. Even a comic like a Stephen Colbert showed ML started with something. Larry just gave his book a misleading title.
The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”
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24 pages and not a single fact to prove there is a "god". Only the bible said this and that. It seems that once you are brainwashed into believing there is a god what you believe and fictional books become facts. Can't believers just say I believe in god but have no proof ? Will this stimulate 24 more pages of no facts? Heck, I'm not even asking for proof, just some good evidence. They can't even produce that. Nah, the evidence for a Creator is right in front of you but you choose not to acknowledge it. Which is crazier..... “God created the world”. Or the “The world came into existence from ‘nothing’.....’nothing created everything we see” And don’t start that Magic Larry business again. Even a comic like a Stephen Colbert showed ML started with something. Larry just gave his book a misleading title. With all due respect, the various forms of the Cosmological Arguments are nothing more than arguments from ignorance. Even if we accepted all the premises of the argument, which I don't, you are still left holding an empty sack, because there's no logical way to move from "there must be a creator", to "that creator is (your preferred version of your preferred god)".
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Believers have told you, including me, many times God said for us to believe in His word as a child and purposely gave us no real proof.
A little child has no scientific proof it can read to trust in its parent but it does.
He didnt want to force stiff necks to do His bidding, wanting you to submit to His will out of love.
A little child wont last long without depending on its provider and neither will you.
And yes, you ask for proof (scientific, specifically) over and like a broken record and then you lie.
We try to provide empirical proof by recalling prophecy fulfilled, yet you prefer to hold on to the one chance in a trillion trillion they were lucky coincidences.
As He said, you fall in your own trap. So believe the bible because the bible says you should believe it? By that reasoning you should believe everything said by AOC, after all, she says you should believe her. The circular reasoning for the bible works just as well for her socialist stick...
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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24 pages and not a single fact to prove there is a "god". Only the bible said this and that. It seems that once you are brainwashed into believing there is a god what you believe and fictional books become facts. Can't believers just say I believe in god but have no proof ? Will this stimulate 24 more pages of no facts? If you don't mind would you tell us how information is generated and how it is contained in the DNA molecule? Don't appeal to panspermia. That only generates the next question, "Where did that come from?" DNA is not "information". It's a self replicating molecule, that replicates via chemical reactions.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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It seems the believers are incapable of providing proof of a god. They can't grasp the concept of proof, it would destroy all they believed in.
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It seems the believers are incapable of providing proof of a god. They can't grasp the concept of proof, it would destroy all they believed in. Heck, Thunderstick won't even answer the simple question, is he a Young Earth Creationist or not?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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24 pages and not a single fact to prove there is a "god". Only the bible said this and that. It seems that once you are brainwashed into believing there is a god what you believe and fictional books become facts. Can't believers just say I believe in god but have no proof ? Will this stimulate 24 more pages of no facts? If you don't mind would you tell us how information is generated and how it is contained in the DNA molecule? Don't appeal to panspermia. That only generates the next question, "Where did that come from?" DNA is not "information". It's a self replicating molecule, that replicates via chemical reactions. not to quibble, but information is contained in the self replicating molecule, that replicates via chemical reactions. chemical reactions have a kind of valence or electrical charge(s). that get's into electricity, and pretty quickly we're mired in quantum physics. after that the metaphysicists swarm out of the woodwork. then even at the 17 decimal point level of detail we can't quite figure out what's what, and what isn't. and then the real and unreal magicians might have something to offer (The Order of the Golden Dawn, gurjeiff, and others).
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TF49 The fact that there is a Universe, does more to discredit the god myth than support it. You won't understand it if you use emotion to figure it out. Sorry
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Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual.
There is no believing a liar, even when he speaks the truth.
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I just heard trump say that we had God given rights. He also said God bless America and God bless the military.
Must be an Imaginary being he was referring to. I just heard the name Christ in a song they were singing too.
Glory glory hallelujah
His truth is marching on !!!
“No one in hell can ever say I went to Christ and He rejected me.
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Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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I just heard trump say that we had God given rights...
God may give them , but Gov. takes them away, ... trump openly said; 'seize their guns first -and ask questions later' . He also said God bless America and God bless the military.
iTs merely a wishful thinking statement, about as useful as 'sending prayers' to change the path of a tornado. If God has got it in for ya, nothin' will change His mind.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Ain't no atheists in a foxhole.........
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
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