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.... We as Christians want to tell others about the good news...
...If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?
Just like the poofters that insist that everyone support their rainbow flag. Guess what sport...people don't want your ideals, nor their's pushed in their face. How about you keep your proselytising to yourself and worship quietly Muslims, peta, anti firearms nuts, socialists, greenies, vegans, christians...the list of arseholes determined to "convince" you is endless.
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TF49 Thanks for proving my point. I'm sure you don't even realize it. To me, the strongest argument for the existence of God is the extremely improbability that functional proteins were produced by random, material processes. One thing is for sure: religious believers can be very annoying. Humble and sincere ones who live their beliefs and are not ostentatious about it are admirable, but most (like jaguarTx---yes, I said it) are complete hypocrites and give Christianity a bad name. Odd thought here.... I’m starting to like the “discussion” that we see here on these threads. Sure there is sharp disagreement but those that would consider themselves skeptics do indeed show up and participate. On some level and for some reason, they are here. At a minimum, they are stirred up in their soul .........for some reason. Seems ok to me.....
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.... We as Christians want to tell others about the good news...
...If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?
Just like the poofters that insist that everyone support their rainbow flag. Guess what sport...people don't want your ideals, nor their's pushed in their face. How about you keep your proselytising to yourself and worship quietly Muslims, peta, anti firearms nuts, socialists, greenies, vegans, christians...the list of arseholes determined to "convince" you is endless. Remember those questions on the IQ tests they gave you when you were a little kid that asked "which of these don't belong". Christians are sorta like that in your list of "arseholes". The Christian belief system tends to make us vote against the advancement of everything else on your list. Using an American football analogy which you probably won't understand, Conservative non-believers hatred of Christians makes about as much sense as everyone on a football team hating the pro bowl left tackle for protecting the quarterback's blind side to well.
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victoro are you sure about the tooth fairy? is there nothing left for me to believe in ? Pretty sure, the Tooth Fairy looked exactly like my Dad but he never admitted it was him. I forgot to mention that I ran out of teeth before I completed my investigation.
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.... We as Christians want to tell others about the good news...
...If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?
Just like the poofters that insist that everyone support their rainbow flag. Guess what sport...people don't want your ideals, nor their's pushed in their face. How about you keep your proselytising to yourself and worship quietly Muslims, peta, anti firearms nuts, socialists, greenies, vegans, christians...the list of arseholes determined to "convince" you is endless. Remember those questions on the IQ tests they gave you when you were a little kid that asked "which of these don't belong". Christians are sorta like that in your list of "arseholes". The Christian belief system tends to make us vote against the advancement of everything else on your list. Using an American football analogy which you probably won't understand, Conservative non-believers hatred of Christians makes about as much sense as everyone on a football team hating the pro bowl left tackle for protecting the quarterback's blind side to well. They most definitely do belong, because each and every one thinks it is his/her duty to make the rest of the world think and do as they do. They are exactly the same.
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Lots of Asians know Jesus. My wife is asian and she never questions the existence of Jesus. She was raised Catholic and joined the Episcopal church with me. She's the second best thing in my world, Jesus is number one. I'm a sinner from hell unless I have Jesus. And this belief costs me nothing. It's there for the picking or the taking. But believe me, I'm no preacher. I'm just an everyday guy that has to have Christ to make it. I'm not holier than thou and I am Fluent in Sailor. I've been known to tip a few cans or jugs. I have to ask for forgiveness on a regular basis because I'm so weak. Don't look at me as an example but only as what God can do with a very weak sinner.
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.... We as Christians want to tell others about the good news...
...If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?
Just like the poofters that insist that everyone support their rainbow flag. Guess what sport...people don't want your ideals, nor their's pushed in their face. How about you keep your proselytising to yourself and worship quietly Muslims, peta, anti firearms nuts, socialists, greenies, vegans, christians...the list of arseholes determined to "convince" you is endless. Remember those questions on the IQ tests they gave you when you were a little kid that asked "which of these don't belong". Christians are sorta like that in your list of "arseholes". The Christian belief system tends to make us vote against the advancement of everything else on your list. Using an American football analogy which you probably won't understand, Conservative non-believers hatred of Christians makes about as much sense as everyone on a football team hating the pro bowl left tackle for protecting the quarterback's blind side to well. They most definitely do belong, because each and every one thinks it is his/her duty to make the rest of the world think and do as they do. They are exactly the same.
What goes up must come down, what goes around comes around, there's no free lunch. Trump's comin' back, get over it!
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.... We as Christians want to tell others about the good news...
...If you knew that your child was heading for danger would you not warn him because of your love and foreknowledge?
Just like the poofters that insist that everyone support their rainbow flag. Guess what sport...people don't want your ideals, nor their's pushed in their face. How about you keep your proselytising to yourself and worship quietly Muslims, peta, anti firearms nuts, socialists, greenies, vegans, christians...the list of arseholes determined to "convince" you is endless. Remember those questions on the IQ tests they gave you when you were a little kid that asked "which of these don't belong". Christians are sorta like that in your list of "arseholes". The Christian belief system tends to make us vote against the advancement of everything else on your list. Using an American football analogy which you probably won't understand, Conservative non-believers hatred of Christians makes about as much sense as everyone on a football team hating the pro bowl left tackle for protecting the quarterback's blind side to well. They most definitely do belong, because each and every one thinks it is his/her duty to make the rest of the think and do as they do. They are exactly the same. I'm more like a bill board sign. I tell you what I believe, then if you don't like it, do what you want. I'm not chasing you down to pour it in your ears. I say it once, if you don't want or need what I have that's fine. But I'm bound by the creator to try to help spread the word. But like I said before, If I'm wrong, no big deal to you. But if you're wrong and I'm right, you're in a "HELL" of a mess! Anyway, I'm off to see the wizard. Later!
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I'm more like a bill board sign. I tell you what I believe, then if you don't like it, do what you want. I'm not chasing you down to pour it in your ears. I say it once, if you don't want or need what I have that's fine. But I'm bound by the creator to try to help spread the word. But like I said before, If I'm wrong, no big deal to you. But if you're wrong and I'm right, you're in a "HELL" of a mess!
And that bullshit right there is the problem every single damned time...people just cannot mind their own damned business and leave others to themselves.And that bullshit right there is how it is justified.And you turkeys wonder why you are being attacked from all angles, you bring it on yourselves.
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Also, if you're saying we don't have any business telling you this, you're the one full of [bleep]. We have as much right as the other side and they're out beating the bushes telling everybody we're full of it and their ain't no God. Tell me I'm wrong about that. But like I said, I'm not beating you up with this. I won't come to your house and scream it in your ear. I just say it on sights like this or FB to try and get people to try it out. If you don't want what I got that's fine with me. You won't hear it from me again, unless you see me saying it on a sight like this. And then you have the right to ignore.
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Also, if you're saying we don't have any business telling you this, you're the one full of [bleep]. We have as much right as the other side and they're out beating the bushes telling everybody we're full of it and their ain't no God. Tell me I'm wrong about that. But like I said, I'm not beating you up with this. I won't come to your house and scream it in your ear. I just say it on sights like this or FB to try and get people to try it out. If you don't want what I got that's fine with me. You won't hear it from me again, unless you see me saying it on a sight like this. And then you have the right to ignore. Incorrect. In my opinion there is God...but it is not my place to make others believe as I do. But then I am not a controlling piece of šhit that has no respect for others. Here is an idea, how about you go grab a sword and kick down all the brown peoples doors and do away with them if they don't believe as you do.
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TF49 Thanks for proving my point. I'm sure you don't even realize it. To me, the strongest argument for the existence of God is the extremely improbability that functional proteins were produced by random, material processes. One thing is for sure: religious believers can be very annoying. Humble and sincere ones who live their beliefs and are not ostentatious about it are admirable, but most (like jaguarTx---yes, I said it) are complete hypocrites and give Christianity a bad name. Odd thought here.... I’m starting to like the “discussion” that we see here on these threads. Sure there is sharp disagreement but those that would consider themselves skeptics do indeed show up and participate. On some level and for some reason, they are here. At a minimum, they are stirred up in their soul .........for some reason. Seems ok to me..... It's nothing personal for me....being a discussion forum, claims are made and claims are questioned. Seeing a bit of healthy scepticism for balance is a good thing.
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AS,
You’re dodging again..... Creator? .... or Nothing created everything? Nice false dichotomy. Upon what basis are you asserting there ever was your version of "nothing". Here's the difference between a Lawerence krauss and a Theist. Larry actually proposed workable hypothesis that could move us one step closer to a true understanding of the nature of our existence. As with many discoveries, it creates new questions and new lines of inquiry. Just because a line of inquiry creates new questions, that doesn't mean it's wrong.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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i just hate it when der god of all leaves us to struggle down here on the urth, trying to figure out where we're from, where we are, and where we're going next.
i mean, one might think he/she/it would tell us. but oh no. not a chance.
i guess the payoff from such knowing would not be beneficial from his perspective?
what does he want to know, and what can we do to help him find his preferred answer?
mostly, i think we are biological beings like panthers, lions, tigers, and wildebeest looking for food.
we're doing it in a highly organized fashion, and we've been embued or embedded with a bit of consciousness.
if we could all manage to just believe the same thing, and the same way, wouldn't we all be oh so much better off?
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Also, if you're saying we don't have any business telling you this, you're the one full of [bleep]. We have as much right as the other side and they're out beating the bushes telling everybody we're full of it and their ain't no God. Tell me I'm wrong about that. But like I said, I'm not beating you up with this. I won't come to your house and scream it in your ear. I just say it on sights like this or FB to try and get people to try it out. If you don't want what I got that's fine with me. You won't hear it from me again, unless you see me saying it on a sight like this. And then you have the right to ignore. Incorrect. In my opinion there is God...but it is not my place to make others believe as I do. But then I am not a controlling piece of šhit that has no respect for others. Here is an idea, how about you go grab a sword and kick down all the brown peoples doors and do away with them if they don't believe as you do. Theres a vast difference in printing something on a public forum and making someone read it. I am directed by God to tell and spread the Good News. I have never made anyone read what i typed. Why should i after ive done my duty. I dont now read the majority of their posts and i doubt i would read one of Satans minions threads.
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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if we could all manage to just believe the same thing, and the same way, wouldn't we all be oh so much better off? That depends. What if we all believe the same thing and it not true?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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It is faith for a reason. It is not automatic for good reason. I can not add to that.
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Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.
"The Lord never asked anyone to be a tax collector, lowyer, or Redskins fan".
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if we could all manage to just believe the same thing, and the same way, wouldn't we all be oh so much better off? That depends. What if we all believe the same thing and it not true? lol. i do understand the question and thanks for asking it on this open forum. just how close can a human get to the truth in one life-time? i do not know the answer to that one at all. but from the cave man to now has been a trip. and the High Priests at NASA are now doing things. it's almost amazing, whether we believe in yay or nay. i'm hoping for a gold meteor to land in my back yard, shallowly.
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There is not near enough gold in the universe to outweigh this old wood emblem Gus.
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