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There is a lot of bias in the report. What are the top breeds? Golden and labs. What are the top breeds with the most reported problems? Same, same. Who runs to the vet for dog check ups? Folks who can afford to. Who buys a lot of the ""premium" brands listed? Same.
I am in the research stage, hence the start of the post. That said, I want to give my lab the best I can.
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Not counting rez dogs either.
They make good living rummaging through McDonald's bags tossed out next to the dirty diapers at intersections.
Dont know if they can drink the warm Budweiser or Twisted Tea in the barrow pit though.... Big Jim, what’s a barrow pit ??? I’m guessing maybe it’s Montana speak for what Texans call a bar ditch ???
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My dog picks his own tomatoes and cucumbers. He's doing Keto right now.
My old Lab loved Apricots......he'd stand on his back legs and pick em. Just looking at his chit made my butt hole hurt
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I think thats right.
Bar ditch the same as borrow pit I believe.
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Afterbirth, road kill and dead cow debris. The dingo recently pulled out a healthy chunk of aged afterbirth from a manure pile. Something he had buried back in April or March is now rediscovered mid July. The moment he jumps in the back seat of the pick-up and exhales you find out. I had an Aussie as a kid that could smell out a rotting carcass from miles away. She really loved rolling in that chit for some reason, never could break her of it.
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Its the circle of life man.
You didnt dig that bovine out of the ground when it was born.....
Buzzards gotta eat.......same as worms..... See that dirt spot lower left, buried bovine... Buzzard food.
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My dog picks his own tomatoes and cucumbers. He's doing Keto right now.
My old Lab loved Apricots......he'd stand on his back legs and pick em. Just looking at his chit made my butt hole hurt He pulled about 10 this evening while we were tying up tomato vines.
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My dog picks his own tomatoes and cucumbers. He's doing Keto right now.
My old Lab loved Apricots......he'd stand on his back legs and pick em. Just looking at his chit made my butt hole hurt LOL. Reminds me of one of GrandDad’s favorite sayings : “He was shaking like a Chihuahua schitting a peach seed”
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Looks like thems other bovines are sitting shiva.
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I think thats right.
Bar ditch the same as borrow pit I believe.
Gotcha.
"Allways speak the truth and you will never have to remember what you said before..." Sam Houston Texans, "We say Grace, We Say Mam, If You Don't Like it, We Don't Give a Damn!"
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Pretty much. Her calf was inside the fence looking for mamma.
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There is a lot of bias in the report. What are the top breeds? Golden and labs. What are the top breeds with the most reported problems? Same, same. Who runs to the vet for dog check ups? Folks who can afford to. Who buys a lot of the ""premium" brands listed? Same.
I am in the research stage, hence the start of the post. That said, I want to give my lab the best I can. I wouldn't call it bias, it is what it is. The FDA is just acting on what was reported to them. What strikes me as odd though is the fact there were almost no reports for years prior to 2018. What changed? Did the way vets report things change or was there really a spike in the disease? If it really is a spike in the disease, what caused it. The fact most of the reported cases were in dogs on grain free diet, regardless of protein source, seems to implicated something in the grain free process. I think for now the safe thing would be not using grain free dog food, unless you need to due to allergy or other health concern. I currently feed my dog IAMS large breed and supplement protein from eggs. In no way do I think IAMS is a "premium" brand and that is why I supplement.
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I am thinking about switching to IAMS. Thanks
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I am thinking about switching to IAMS. Thanks Used to feed Iams but about 12 years found out that were using contaminated Chinese protein in their foods. Dogs died eating it Sure they fixed it but can’t beat the Costco brand for quality and value
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I am thinking about switching to IAMS. Thanks Used to feed Iams but about 12 years found out that were using contaminated Chinese protein in their foods. Dogs died eating it Sure they fixed it but can’t beat the Costco brand for quality and value China is a huge problem as almost all the supplemental vitamins in dog food comes from China. Even the "made in USA" brands. Many brands have been burned by secondary suppliers that source their product from China. Most recently was prescription only Science Diet, which was extremely well thought of. If you are buying commercial dog food, you are most likely feeding some ingredients that were sourced from China. Think that's bad, the same applies to many of the prescription drugs that you may take.
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How about Eagle Pack? Supposed to be a well researched formulation.
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My dog picks his own tomatoes and cucumbers. He's doing Keto right now.
My old Lab loved Apricots......he'd stand on his back legs and pick em. Just looking at his chit made my butt hole hurt He pulled about 10 this evening while we were tying up tomato vines. My Sophie dog (GSP) that died recently was a Tomato thief. She'd eat em by the dozen given the chance.......I had to be careful not to turn my back on the basket when I picked Tomato's.
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We cook for our dogs. Pathetic to some, but we've had excellent results. Our schnauzers get eggs and unsweetened applesauce for breakfast. Low salt green beans, and Blue Diamond kibble for dinner. We had a rat terrier who had a long time heart murmur who was eighteen when she passed.
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We cook for our dogs. Pathetic to some, but we've had excellent results. Our schnauzers get eggs and unsweetened applesauce for breakfast. Low salt green beans, and Blue Diamond kibble for dinner. We had a rat terrier who had a long time heart murmur who was eighteen when she passed. Not pathetic. A home cooked diet, or some version of a raw diet is what's best. It's just a lot of work and expensive. Even the best commercial dog food is still basically stuff that comes from a rendering plant. I've looked at this for my dogs before, but dang is it expensive: https://www.barfworld.com/We supplement our dog food with fresh eggs and green beans.
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Victors. With at least ten different varieties, it's our top selling brand in our pet supply stores. I feed the Hi-Pro in the little dog kennel to dogs that don't come with their own food. My twelve year old Drathaar is on the chicken and sweet potato variety.
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