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I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.


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Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

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Originally Posted by irfubar

... probably 90% of the possible employee's cannot pass a drug test.... those two in the video are the cream of the crop

Not just Oregon.

Some years back when Union Tank built a plant in our area, I was talking to a supervisor. He said he had guys who could weld, guys who could read a blueprint, not many who could do both. And not many of them could pee clean in a cup.

Not a good omen of where we are as a country..

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Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Pipe wrench... done deal


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If you put Taco Bell sauce in your ramen noodles it tastes just like poverty
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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Pipe wrench... done deal


Dealer’s choice. Blue electrical tape or blue loctite. congrats. hint. dingleberry itch. Candy cane.

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That blue tape's gotta tighten up everything, groups included...

Plus it's uber cool... cool

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Originally Posted by huntsman22
Is Frito-Lay hiring?....
Yeah, they are. Apparently they're in desperate need too because they're advertising on the radio and they've never done that before in my lifetime around here. 17.77 an hour to start to drive one of those delivery vans or 19.45 an hour to sanitize chip production equipment. Delivery drivers don't even put chips on the shelves. Just drop them off and merchandisers come around after to put them out on the shelves.

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Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?

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Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.
Twist em harder. Mine never come loose.

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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?


AKA the White Knuckle Edition.


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If you're a first world manufacturer that has/had manufactured quality for so many years, thinking you hung the moon and ceasing to continue to do the things that got you there is a slow, lingering recipe for perhaps short term profits and the long term becomes someone else's problem to figure out.

If your competitors are already doing what you should have done, well your window for correcting that is small.

"Your premium brand had better be delivering something special, or its not going to get the business".

I don't personally like Buffett, but a company might heed a successful old man's advice....which if you read it, is rooted in what the CUSTOMER thinks.

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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
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That doesn't inspire confidence. It almost sounds like they have trouble finding competent help in the tech dept and tolerate subpar workmanship.


Have you ever been to Oregon? probably 90% of the possible employee's cannot pass a drug test.... those two in the video are the cream of the crop


They could film a reality television show at PDX. The security lines are more entertaining than your local boat ramp.


That comment is rich! If I were a divorce attorney I'd have signs hanging at every boat ramp.

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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?

I really don't know. They range from 1985 to 2018.


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Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?

AKA the White Knuckle Edition.

That kind of has a ring to it ... grin

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Originally Posted by Youper
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?

I really don't know. They range from 1985 to 2018.

Some probably are. Actually, I don't know if Leupold puts the dual erectors in all their models, or just some, like VX-3 vs VX-2, etc. But they started when they made the change from VX-III to VX-3.

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Originally Posted by PaulBarnard
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by irfubar
Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
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That doesn't inspire confidence. It almost sounds like they have trouble finding competent help in the tech dept and tolerate subpar workmanship.


Have you ever been to Oregon? probably 90% of the possible employee's cannot pass a drug test.... those two in the video are the cream of the crop


They could film a reality television show at PDX. The security lines are more entertaining than your local boat ramp.


That comment is rich! If I were a divorce attorney I'd have signs hanging at every boat ramp.

Those goofy PDX fuggs were trying to sell pieces of the old carpet from the airport because it was soooo iconic. Fugging seriously.


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Look on the Elk Hunting blog. Overwhelming bubbas use L scopes on open country elk rifles. Not I, said the Little Red Hen....

Is there meaning here?


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Originally Posted by Judman
I still like\run leupold...... 😎🖕


Same here most my rifles have the ol vxII on them. I had one leupold stop holding zero. Sent it in, leupold called said it was no good and they would send me a new one. That scope they replaced was made in 1971.


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Originally Posted by Gringo Loco
Originally Posted by Youper
I'm still waiting on my first Leupold failure.

Nightforce et al. are not an option due to cost.

The only Leupold problem I consistently run into is the locking nut of the ocular bell won't stay tight on many of my Leupolds. Were they to fix that I'd be completely happy.

Are they the newer dual erector spring models or older ones?


So do you feel going to the dual erector system was a beneficial move or not ?

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If I count correctly, I own 18 Leupold scopes.
The dates of manufacture of my 18 scopes range from 1977 to 2017. (Wow! That's forty years!)
Except for a single 2x handgun scope, all of my Leupold scopes are variables. I did give away a pre-1974 M8-4x before I realized I should have hung onto it.

Except for one SWFA and scopes that came to me on old rifles (bought or inherited), Leupold is the only thing I own, and I don't use the other brands that came to me. My loyalty dates from when they had a much better reputation and following, from the days when it was clear hunters and shooters ran the company. Also from the days when just about any custom rifle wore a scope with a gold ring on it.

Of those 18 scopes, I believe only five were bought new. I do not shy away from a used Leupold as long as the exterior has no dents or lens scratches and I can live with any other dings. I have always relied on the Leupold warranty. Leupold customer service has been very good to me, but I believe I have sent in only one scope, because the ocular would not extend back far enough to focus for me. (The only vision correction I currently need/use is 1.5 "drugstore readers", yet I use most of the focusing adjustment in most Leupold scopes. I don't know what the guys needing 2.5 and 3.0 readers do?) All other customer service from Leupold has been for binoculars and one spotting scope. Again, Leupold customer service has treated me extremely well.

Except for the above mentioned SWFA, which I bought with the intention of dialing, my scope use is "set and forget." My experience has been that sometimes a Leupold will not immediately track unless "thumped" by a shot or my wallet, but I do not recall ever needing to burn a lot of ammo to zero a rifle. When you think about the precision necessary for a scope to dial accurately, it is sort of surprising to me that some scopes not only dial accurately, but continue to do so as opposed to wearing out from all the dialing.

I have never had a Leupold shift zero, but I am admittedly not a high volume shooter, so I wouldn't consider my experience to be a strong data point whatsoever. Being a "set and forget" user, I can live with not dialing accurately, but suddenly shifting zero is not acceptable. Show me even one user group, even Fudds like me (although I don't consider myself a Fudd), who will put up with wandering zero!

I missed the webinar, but it sounds like it was a real goat rope. 24hourcampfire may be a miniscule piece of the market, but a of a good number of the members are knowledgeable users, and we should be a pretty good statistical sample as far as identifying problems. If Leupold truly thinks they don't have any issues at all, that is just stupid.

I think the new styling is fugly. Just frickin' ugly! I only own a few rifles, AR's, SKS, or similar, that I would allow such a fugly scope.

I'll keep my eye on my Leupold scopes as far as holding zero. Were I buying a scope to dial, it wouldn't be a Leupold. That's why I bought the one SWFA.


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Originally Posted by GunDoc7
If I count correctly, I own 18 Leupold scopes.
The dates of manufacture of my 18 scopes range from 1977 to 2017.
Except for a single 2x handgun scope, all of my Leupold scopes are variables. I did give away a pre-1974 M8-4x before I realized I should have hung onto it.

Except for one SWFA and scopes that came to me on old rifles (bought or inherited), Leupold is the only thing I own, and I don't use the other brands that came to me. My loyalty dates from when they had a much better reputation and following, from the days when it was clear hunters and shooters ran the company. Also from the days when just about any custom rifle wore a scope with a gold ring on it.

Of those 18 scopes, I believe only five were bought new. I do not shy away from a used Leupold as long as the exterior has no dents or lens scratches and I can live with any other dings. I have always relied on the Leupold warranty. Leupold customer service has been very good to me, but I believe I have sent in only one scope, because the ocular would not extend back far enough to focus for me. (The only vision correction I currently need/use is 1.5 "drugstore readers", yet I use most of the focusing adjustment in most Leupold scopes. I don't know what the guys needing 2.5 and 3.0 readers do?) All other customer service from Leupold has been for binoculars and one spotting scope. Again, Leupold customer service has treated me extremely well.

Except for the above mentioned SWFA, which I bought with the intention of dialing, my scope use is "set and forget." My experience has been that sometimes a Leupold will not immediately track unless "thumped" by a shot or my wallet, but I do not recall ever needing to burn a lot of ammo to zero a rifle. When you think about the precision necessary for a scope to dial accurately, it is sort of surprising to me that some scopes not only dial accurately, but continue to do so as opposed to wearing out from all the dialing.

I have never had a Leupold shift zero, but I am admittedly not a high volume shooter, so I wouldn't consider my experience to be a strong data point whatsoever. Being a "set and forget" user, I can live with not dialing accurately, but suddenly shifting zero is not acceptable. Show me even one user group, even Fudds like me (although I don't consider myself a Fudd), who will put up with wandering zero!

I missed the webinar, but it sounds like it was a real goat rope. 24hourcampfire may be a miniscule piece of the market, but a of a good number of the members are knowledgeable users, and we should be a pretty good statistical sample as far as identifying problems. If Leupold truly thinks they don't have any issues at all, that is just stupid.

I think the new styling is fugly. Just frickin' ugly! I only own a few rifles, AR's, SKS, or similar, that I would allow such a fugly scope.

I'll keep my eye on my Leupold scopes as far as holding zero. Were I buying a scope to dial, it wouldn't be a Leupold. That's why I bought the one SWFA.


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