One more little thing, my boyfriend and I like to ride side by side so when you come up behind us at 70 mph maybe just slow down really fast or swerve way over into the other lane when you finally get an open spot to pass pulling the heavy trailer.
One more little thing, my boyfriend and I like to ride side by side so when you come up behind us at 70 mph maybe just slow down really fast or swerve way over into the other lane when you finally get an open spot to pass pulling the heavy trailer.
It won't be an issue Sam. Applying a little pressure to the brake or the steering wheel isn't physically exhausting to me.
So do you wetards that ride bicycles on the highway carry insurance to cover the damage you cause? Of course not your all a buucnha arrogant jerks and this thread proves it
The bicyclists I hate are the ones that can't ride single file but insist on riding two or three abreast so they can talk and socialize, acting as though it's their right to do so and the motorists are out of line.
I am not just speaking out of my ass. I have researched this. The larger the group the greater the time advantage to passing side by side cyclists, but the advantage applies to passing 3 side by side as opposed to strung out. This obviously assumes the motorist has to enter the oncoming lane to safely pass the cyclist. Where there's a useable shoulder or a lane wide enough for a motorist to safely share with the cyclist, then single file is best for the motorist.
Sure, except that in the instance with the riders two up, the motorist was way too damned close while following them. If two had tangled and gone down, the car didn't have enough room to avoid running over them. So car should have started a couple seconds further away. So now it's 18 seconds vs 14.
Secondly, here in the US, I'm aware of no laws requiring the motor vehicle to move completely to the other lane. CA requires 3 feet between car and bike, other states require only 2. So there's more time made up not moving fully over into the other lane. Tons of places here where you don't even need to cross the centerline, and yet leave plenty of room to pass a group of single file cyclists.
Thirdly, what does the motorist do when something appears suddenly on the left. (or from the right in the English video)? Quite possibly swerves to the right. Where there is now less room for error because the riders are three up. Again, riders potentially getting mangled. Oh sure the motorist may, or may not face civil penalties. I hope the families of those lost take comfort in that. Best remember there's a jury in that civil action. And those people on the jury? They're made up of folks just like the ones found in this thread. So good luck with that massive lawsuit. Oh, and BTW, if you're not riding your bicycle "as close as practicable to the curb or right hand edge of the roadway", well here in CA, that's illegal. So, super dooper good luck with that lawsuit...
And last, there's the emotional/psychological effect that three riders abreast, blocking the entire lane has, vs those same three riding single file. The former incites the kind of anger found here in the thread. The latter, not nearly as much. Especially if this single file group is entirely within the shoulder.
I've seen several times in my travels, when they have pulled right out in front of moving vehicles.... and then learn the logistics of 5 to 10,000 lbs vs 200lbs of cyclist and rider....
saw one get wacked last year, after pulling right in front of a Dodge 3500 Dually, after running the stop sign.
Left no room for the Dodge not to hit him.....
I felt no sympathy for the the cyclist....he played Russian Roulette with a large loaded pickup and lost....
kinda like feeling sympathy for someone who shoots himself... stupid should hurt...
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I've seen several times in my travels, when they have pulled right out in front of moving vehicles.... and then learn the logistics of 5 to 10,000 lbs vs 200lbs of cyclist and rider....
saw one get wacked last year, after pulling right in front of a Dodge 3500 Dually, after running the stop sign.
Left no room for the Dodge not to hit him.....
I felt no sympathy for the the cyclist....he played Russian Roulette with a large loaded pickup and lost....
kinda like feeling sympathy for someone who shoots himself... stupid should hurt...
Motorists do that too. Disregard for stop lights and stop signs isn't unique to the cycling community.
I am not just speaking out of my ass. I have researched this. The larger the group the greater the time advantage to passing side by side cyclists, but the advantage applies to passing 3 side by side as opposed to strung out. This obviously assumes the motorist has to enter the oncoming lane to safely pass the cyclist. Where there's a useable shoulder or a lane wide enough for a motorist to safely share with the cyclist, then single file is best for the motorist.
Sure, except that in the instance with the riders two up, the motorist was way too damned close while following them. If two had tangled and gone down, the car didn't have enough room to avoid running over them. So car should have started a couple seconds further away. So now it's 18 seconds vs 14.
Secondly, here in the US, I'm aware of no laws requiring the motor vehicle to move completely to the other lane. CA requires 3 feet between car and bike, other states require only 2. So there's more time made up not moving fully over into the other lane. Tons of places here where you don't even need to cross the centerline, and yet leave plenty of room to pass a group of single file cyclists.
Thirdly, what does the motorist do when something appears suddenly on the left. (or from the right in the English video)? Quite possibly swerves to the right. Where there is now less room for error because the riders are three up. Again, riders potentially getting mangled. Oh sure the motorist may, or may not face civil penalties. I hope the families of those lost take comfort in that. Best remember there's a jury in that civil action. And those people on the jury? They're made up of folks just like the ones found in this thread. So good luck with that massive lawsuit. Oh, and BTW, if you're not riding your bicycle "as close as practicable to the curb or right hand edge of the roadway", well here in CA, that's illegal. So, super dooper good luck with that lawsuit...
And last, there's the emotional/psychological effect that three riders abreast, blocking the entire lane has, vs those same three riding single file. The former incites the kind of anger found here in the thread. The latter, not nearly as much. Especially if this single file group is entirely within the shoulder.
Stay safe out there.
Under California law, what does "as close as practicable to the curb or right hand edge of the roadway" mean when the lane isn't wide enough for a cyclist and motorist to safely share?
I rarely ride in groups. When I do it's on lightly traveled roadways. We always single up for motorists. It doesn't save them time, but they feel better about it. As you have correctly identified, it serves the same purpose a pacifier does to a baby. It provides emotional comfort.
The bicyclists I hate are the ones that can't ride single file but insist on riding two or three abreast so they can talk and socialize, acting as though it's their right to do so and the motorists are out of line.
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I've seen several times in my travels, when they have pulled right out in front of moving vehicles.... and then learn the logistics of 5 to 10,000 lbs vs 200lbs of cyclist and rider....
saw one get wacked last year, after pulling right in front of a Dodge 3500 Dually, after running the stop sign.
Left no room for the Dodge not to hit him.....
I felt no sympathy for the the cyclist....he played Russian Roulette with a large loaded pickup and lost....
kinda like feeling sympathy for someone who shoots himself... stupid should hurt...
Motorists do that too. Disregard for stop lights and stop signs isn't unique to the cycling community.
In my experience the percentage of bicyclist disregarding traffic signal and rules of the road is much higher than the percentage of motorists.
In fact I never see a car go from riding down a side walk, slip over to the road, blow through a red light and cross diagonally across an intersection. I've see that at least once just this month. Several other times seen something similar. Changes states like a quantum particle, pedestrian->vehicle->unnamed thing impervious to physics.
The bicyclists I hate are the ones that can't ride single file but insist on riding two or three abreast so they can talk and socialize, acting as though it's their right to do so and the motorists are out of line.