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I don’t know all the particulars as much as you. However, Sherman has my attention and from books and his quotes, I’m more than fairly sure vengeance for secession most certainly was his mindset. He took particular measure to destroy S. Carolina because they were the first State to do so.

This war differs from other wars, in this particular. We are not fighting armies but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war. William Tecumseh Sherman
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“I have for some days held and controlled every avenue by which the people and garrison of Savannah can be supplied, and I am therefore justified in demanding the surrender of the city…I am prepared to grant liberal terms to the inhabitants and garrison; but should I be forced to resort to assault, or the slower and surer process of starvation, I shall then feel justified in resorting to the harshest measures, and shall make little effort to restrain my army—burning to avenge the national wrong which they attach to Savannah and other large cities which have been so prominent in dragging our country into civil war.”
― William T. Sherman, Memoirs of General W.T. Sherman

Sherman made Bloody Bill Anderson look like a shrinking violet.

Spot-on.

Lee was fortunate it was Meade and not Sherman at Gettysburg. Lee wouldn’t have walked away in the middle of the night. He would either have surrendered or never again set foot on Virginia soil.

But that's not really setting the bar very high now, is it ?

This stuff directed at me or some other freakin Yankee?

Ok, I can understand Billy's motivation a little better. Ike hated the Germans, and Mac the Japanese, but regardless, neither ever deliberately targeted civilians.
Not all that different from Bloody Bill Anderson or Qauntrell. In their minds they were vengeance fighters too. Some guys can't tell the difference between acts of war and terrorism. Admittedly it's a fine line, but Nowadays they punish people for that.

"Grant was to go for Lee, and I was to go for Joe Johnson" Sherman on the conference he and Grant had in Cincinnati before Grant left for Washington.
Notice any differences in your quotes of Sherman versus mine?
7mm

Hate to be such a stickler but isn’t the good General’s name really Joseph E. “Johnston" ?

( yeah I had to be an a-hole! 🤣🤣🤣🤣)

I believe Gen. Johnson was in the ANV. Wasn’t he? I could be wrong.

Well, you would know.


You were probably there.........

Shucks, I was just a kid at the time! 😉

Haha!

Savannah gave up without a fight and Sherman presented the city to Lincoln as a Christmas present. They probably thought about putting up a fight but it was time for Christmas parties and bowl season was just starting. Just a little joke for those that know the place......

Neither deliberately target civilians?
The carpet bomb air raids over Germany killed civilians on a daily basis. An estimated 400,000 to 500,000 civilians.The A bomb is estimated to have killed somewhere around 200,000 civilians, and rather quickly.

Things most certainly have changed today and one of the reasons we become entangled in long term wars today. Sherman was willing to be nice, after you had enough.

Once again.

America didn't have a Civil War. A Civil War is two factions fighting for control of the country.

That didn't happen.

The war was the Federal Government imposing itself on a people who didn't want to be ruled by it any longer.

It's called tyranny.

Yeah, but America! Frick yeah! Coming to save the [bleep] day yeah!

Antifa doesn’t want to abide by Federal or State law. Under your definition, they are nothing more than nice people that feel oppressed and want out.

Maybe you should join them in their fight against a tyranny?

No,...they want to own you.

It's so evident that the North meant to maintain control of the south that it shows downright stupidity to say anything else.

To compare Antifa to the secessionists who made up the south is one of the more stupid things I've seen anyone assert on here.

And that's saying something.

And you are FOS. They see the government and big business as having control over their rights.

They are opposed to a right wing government which they feel is oppressive and not in their best interest. Thus going rogue is justifiable.

There's no reason to fight against tyranny when so many on the right, like yourself, continue to advocate it.

It's been said that a people get the government they deserve.

You going to being wearing a mask? Probably best, since we know what you look like.