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Thanks Battue!

Last week at Rocky Mountain National Rendezvous about 40 miles or so SE of Gunnison Colo.



(Forgive me 7mmbuster for slight hijack. But I’m firmly established in the fact that Pennsylvania is pretty dang responsible for the American rifleman!).

Beautiful rifle! I've always wanted to build something like that, but lack the time, money, and above all, the patience! Inletting the stock for the furniture and lock worries me. I'm thinking I could screw that up in a heartbeat.
I'd probably bang it all up in the brush anyway!
Here in Pennsylvania we have a flintlock only deer season after Xmas into January. I've got a Pennsylvania Rifle rocklock in 50, but some of the places I like to hunt ain't exactly where you want to go with a 5 foot, 9 pound piece of artwork!
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7mm!! They are a killin’ machine!!! Tote it to the killin’ fields!!!!!!! 😉.

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And you blame someone else for that!?! Remarkably obnoxious.

There is a LOT of truth to this. I have been amazed at the lack of respect for family history down here. So many folks don’t care that Ma and Pa Kettle busted their ass to carve an existence out of the wildernesses, many years ago. The family land and heritage means nothing when a pos developer is offering up the big bucks. Seem like the same old pot bellied dude with a goatee talking about selling family land, so they can buy a place at Holden Beach. Can’t put all the blame on those moving down, when locals are selling out like they are. The biggest issue with those moving down here is the lack of integration and respect for our way of life. Also, the northeasterners have a bit of a brash personality at times, which doesn’t translate well to our culture. Many down here feel a bit invaded and overwhelmed.

Terryk may know a bit more on this. But the vast majority of firearms that the State of Virginia had stockpiled before the war (Virginia State Manufacturoy at Richmond) were mostly unconverted flintlocks. Converting them to percussion system didn’t really kick off until after secession.

This thread has achieved "I can't f u c k i n g believe this s h i t status and proof positive most people should not be allowed to vote...

Not at all.


I quite enjoy Bob's posts.

Trust me, dragging that damn thing through grown over choppins and crabapple the only thing you're killing is yourself!
Alas, in deep winter after rifle season, that's where the deer tend to hang out. I got a Hawken for that stuff.
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Just like every other thread here. That's what is so wonderfully entertaining yet depressing about this forum.

Leeroy "virtue signal" Beans.


The other gals run you offa the DU this fine morn?

30 years ago I got the chance to buy may Grandparents farm.

Now it is time to transfer it to my Daughter. I told her when I’m gone she can decide what to do with it and circumstances may make it the best thing to do. However, before she does, think about a piece of land her blood has owned for almost 100 years and what that means.

Not been run offa anywhere, but what's DU? Ducks Unlimited? Still a member.

You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices to-day than any of you to secure peace.
William T. Sherman, Memoirs of General W.T. Sherman

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But Mr Sherman!
Lincoln was the one who decided to invade. He alone decided to take the path of invasion.

Sherman was an open bare faced idolator who worshipped some fanciful notion of the nation as some demigod.
That is what drove him and many others to justify their war crimes in their own perverse darkened minds.

One obvious problem being in the context of his time, his actions were not considered war crimes. In addition, what would be the war crimes?

Really cool to watch. Wish the audio was a little better, but I'm glad you posted it.

Battue, while I do admire some of Sherman's qualities, I still believe he shoulda done things a little different. How 'bout just for chits and giggles, let's put Sherman in a German uniform at Nuremberg.
How do you think he'd have made out? And yeah, I like to stir the pot!

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As we have discussed, believe what you want, however history is history. It is not a play, that can or should be transferred to a different time. The facts are what they are and were. The best we can do is treat them as fairly and accurately as the info available.


Now as far as Nuremberg, that is the stuff of fantasy and again not history. Something akin to what CNN would do when trying to falsely associate one with someone that is looked on with contempt. Mostly shiiit and little giggles. Was that your ulterior purpose? if you want to try and make your point by the application of 1940 standards to those of the 1860's, it will never be accurate or honest to the individual. Sherman was influenced by the standards of his time.

However, to give some factual history, this would be page 168 of the book Fierce Patriot, and it is in regards Shermans conditions of surrender at Savannah. The book was written by one who has a Phd in History from the University of Virginia, and was a professor of the Naval Post Graduate School when the book was written. He admits Sherman is a mercurial many faceted individual. One who others, can often come to different conclusions, regarding how they view his place in history. All that said, he is still considered the father of modern warfare.

Stir your pot how you want, and I'll do the same with mine.