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Not according to the climate scientists.
The touted assertion by the left is that 97% of climate scientists agree that there is global climate change, but the devil is in the details. The change, assuming all data is accurate, is less than one degree over the past 150 years. They also agree that there was no accurate measurement taking place prior to that. Also, the climate is always changing, which they agree on, too, e.g., the various warming and cooling periods of the last several thousand years, confirmed geologically. But people with a political motive will stop at "97% of climate scientists agree on climate change." Most people take that to mean that they agree with the doomsday predictions of the left along with their demands that the West must pay carbon taxes, and such. That's not, in fact, what 97% of climate scientists, however, are in agreement on. See how it works? It's politics. This is not comparable to the science of biology being in agreement on the reality of evolution by natural selection. That's actually as established a fact as heliocentrism.
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The number of people saying anything is not proof of its veracity. The older I get, the more I’m inclined to believe that if a huge number of people are saying something very vociferously, then it is almost certainly false. You are more likely to schit the bed and give out your bank accounts to scammers, also. So dont give a lot of creedence to "the wisdom of age".
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Not according to the climate scientists.
The touted assertion by the left is that 97% of climate scientists agree that there is global climate change, but the devil is in the details. The change, assuming all data is accurate, is less than one degree over the past 150 years. They also agree that there was no accurate measurement taking place prior to that. Also, the climate is always changing, which they agree on, too, e.g., the various warming and cooling periods of the last several thousand years, confirmed geologically. But people with a political motive will stop at "97% of climate scientists agree on climate change." Most people take that to mean that they agree with the doomsday predictions of the left along with their demands that the West must pay carbon taxes, and such. That's not, in fact, what 97% of climate scientists, however, are in agreement on. See how it works? It's politics. This is not comparable to the science of biology being in agreement on the reality of evolution by natural selection. That's actually as established a fact as heliocentrism. If it isn an established fact, explain exactly how it works.
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Okay, we came from monkeys. Cool. But why do we still have monkeys and no middle man? We have Maxine waters. 😖 Funny stuff there. She should immediately be preserved in formaldehyde, purely for the benefit of scientific research
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The number of people saying anything is not proof of its veracity. The older I get, the more I’m inclined to believe that if a huge number of people are saying something very vociferously, then it is almost certainly false. Like this idea of a god? Either He exists or does not, but that existence is in no way dependent on the number of people saying it, or not.
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So the few forgeries that happen now and then in science, yet are uncovered using the scientific method, pose such a problem that everything has to be rejected?....but all the contradictions between religions and within their dogma, taught unquestioningly, is just fine?
Is that it? I don't recall mentioning religion at all. Are you scared that maybe you might be wrong and are getting defensive? miles Scared? Not at all. I don't ignore the evidence that proves evolution. Theory relating to the means and mechanisms of evolution. I am just comparing religion and science because, after all, the members of the opposition, theists, are arguing for religion and creationism over science. As that is the theme, it's hardly being defensive to compare the two...one, science, being the greatest tool of discovery that we have ever had. And the other, religion, ever a source of division and conflict, believers convinced that they have the truth but unable to agree amongst themselves on the details of that so called truth.
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Y'all get it figgered out yet?
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The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men. In it is contentment In it is death and all you seek (Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate.
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It is like the flat earthers who deny the evidence that supports an un-flat earth. They come up with falsities in a weak attempt to prove their theory.
There is this huge fossil record that supports evolution, but wait, that was put there by some supernatural being to confuse and test us, so let's just ignore it. And if we don't like the looks of some dude that is presenting evidence that supports evolution, we can just discount everything he is saying.
As far as climate change? Yeah the climate changes, anyone that denies that will have to explain the ice ages. Now as to the cause of climate change, that is the real question.
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God created us, we ain’t related to fuucking monkeys.
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate. Milespatton threw out Climate as a Red Herring. He can't win on religion, so now he's trying to change the subject.
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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God created us, we ain’t related to fuucking monkeys. It's odd though that we share something like 97% DNA with c H i M p S.
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God created us, we ain’t related to fuucking monkeys. What exactly is this thing called "God?" As for monkeys, like it or not, we have evidence for their existence and the genetic relationship between us.
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate. Job Bob threw out Climate as a Red Herring. He can't win on religion, so now he's trying to change the subject. Just as I suspected.
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God created us, we ain’t related to fuucking monkeys. Actually, you are a monkey. Modern humans are a member of the Geneus Homo which includes other close relatives such as Homo Neanderthalensis. We are of the tribe Hominini which includes [bleep], but not Gorillas, and the subfamily Homininae, aka "African apes" which does include the Gorilla. Above that you are a member of the infraorder Simimiformes, which is MONKEY. Just as all humans are Animals, and Mammals, and primates, we are also all Monkeys.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate. Job Bob threw out Climate as a Red Herring. He can't win on religion, so now he's trying to change the subject. Just as I suspected. I didn’t mention climate at all. Read again.
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate. Job Bob threw out Climate as a Red Herring. He can't win on religion, so now he's trying to change the subject. Just as I suspected. I didn’t mention climate at all. Read again. Somebody did.
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God created us, we ain’t related to fuucking monkeys. Actually, you are a monkey. Modern humans are a member of the Geneus Homo which includes other close relatives such as Homo Neanderthalensis. We are of the tribe Hominini which includes [bleep], but not Gorillas, and the subfamily Homininae, aka "African apes" which does include the Gorilla. Above that you are a member of the infraorder Simimiformes, which is MONKEY. Just as all humans are Animals, and Mammals, and primates, we are also all Monkeys. about the time the Naked Ape lost his hairy body (evolution?) he/she had to start looking for alternative coverings during cold/inclement weather. animal hides would probably suffice in colder areas, leaves in warmer areas? a human without a hairy exterior would need to adapt pretty quickly. adaptation. that word shows up over and over. we are adaptive.
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I don't know how it switched from evolution to climate. Job Bob threw out Climate as a Red Herring. He can't win on religion, so now he's trying to change the subject. Just as I suspected. I didn’t mention climate at all. Read again. Somebody did. Excuse me. It was Milespatton claiming bad science in one area disproves all science.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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The ploy is the issue regardless of who uses it.
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