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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006146 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Originally Posted by Fubarski If you don't understand that "micro" and "macro" evolution are the completely different, you've no business engaging in a discussion of evolution. Micro evolution is the e.coli examples you've cited, with variations developing within a species in response to environment or random chance. But the species remains e. coli, no matter how long it's been in existence. Macro evolution is the development of a new species through changes to an earlier species, an alleged example bein ape to man. Most people of your opinion classify the division in equidae into its three surviving member species (horse, donkey, and zebra) as an example of micro evolution. Do you consider this an example of micro evolution, i.e., the sort of evolution that you accept? Still thinking it over?

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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Idaho_Shooter #14006147 07/27/19
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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: antelope_sniper #14006148 07/27/19
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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006154 07/27/19
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,485 KCMO	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Originally Posted by Fubarski If you don't understand that "micro" and "macro" evolution are the completely different, you've no business engaging in a discussion of evolution. Micro evolution is the e.coli examples you've cited, with variations developing within a species in response to environment or random chance. But the species remains e. coli, no matter how long it's been in existence. Macro evolution is the development of a new species through changes to an earlier species, an alleged example bein ape to man. Most people of your opinion classify the division in equidae into its three surviving member species (horse, donkey, and zebra) as an example of micro evolution. Do you consider this an example of micro evolution, i.e., the sort of evolution that you accept? Way I look at it, if the animals can breed with each other successfully, they're the same species. Is it evolution? Yes, it's micro evolution, differences occurring within a species due to environment or random chance. African elephants can't breed with Asian elephants. Different species, at the present time.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Idaho_Shooter #14006158 07/27/19
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tikka77 Campfire Member T Joined: Jan 2019 Posts: 166 MI	If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ?

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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006160 07/27/19
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,485 KCMO	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye [Still thinking it over? Apologies for life getting in the way of spending alla my time responding to the posts of really important individuals like you.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Fubarski #14006163 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by Fubarski Way I look at it, if the animals can breed with each other successfully, they're the same species. Is it evolution? Yes, it's micro evolution, differences occurring within a species due to environment or random chance. African elephants can't breed with Asian elephants. Different species, at the present time. So Indian and African elephants aren't related to one another?

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: tikka77 #14006171 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? There have been many species of monkey that no long exist, and there are currently many species of them. The monkey species from which our ancestors derived likely no longer exists, and could have divided up into several different species of monkeys and apes, some of which have since disappeared, and some still with us.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: tikka77 #14006174 07/27/19
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MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,415 59644	Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? Exactly. If one has no understanding of genetics and evolution how can one possibly discuss it... So many just flat out declare anything "evolution" is utter bullchit they have not learned the very very basics of the underlying biology... Respectively, Google it. "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Fubarski #14006175 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by Fubarski Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Still thinking it over? Apologies for life getting in the way of spending alla my time responding to the posts of really important individuals like you. Accepted.

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Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: tikka77 #14006177 07/27/19
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,960 Colorado	Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? If Americans came from England, why are there still an England? You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006178 07/27/19
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,485 KCMO	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? ...... have been .........no long exist, .......likely ........ and could have ....................some of which have since disappeared, .............. Sounds real scientific.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: antelope_sniper #14006181 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by antelope_sniper Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? If Americans came from England, why are there still an England? LOL. Exactly.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Fubarski #14006182 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by Fubarski Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Originally Posted by tikka77 If Evolution is real then why are Monkeys still Monkeys ? ...... have been .........no long exist, .......likely ........ and could have ....................some of which have since disappeared, .............. Sounds real scientific. So, Indian and African elephants aren't related to one another?

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006199 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by Fubarski African elephants can't breed with Asian elephants. Different species, at the present time. But at one time in the past, they weren't different? In other words, they were the same species once, but no longer?

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: The_Real_Hawkeye #14006201 07/27/19
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,485 KCMO	As I stated, not closely enough to breed to each other.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Idaho_Shooter #14006205 07/27/19
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Fubarski Campfire Outfitter F Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 12,485 KCMO	From your link: "There are unconfirmed rumours of three other hybrid elephants born in zoos or circuses; all are said to have been deformed and did not survive" Not closely enough to breed.

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Fubarski #14006210 07/27/19
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antelope_sniper Campfire 'Bwana A Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 30,960 Colorado	Originally Posted by Fubarski As I stated, not closely enough to breed to each other. So, Did African and Indian elephants evolve from common ancestry, or do you have a different explanation, and if so, what is it and why? You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it. You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Fubarski #14006220 07/27/19
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The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,616 USA	Originally Posted by Fubarski From your link: "There are unconfirmed rumours of three other hybrid elephants born in zoos or circuses; all are said to have been deformed and did not survive" Not closely enough to breed. So you admit they are related? By what means are they related, if two different species? Can you describe how that would happen? Are Giant Pandas and Grizzlies related? If so, in what way exactly?

Re: Evolution is a myth? Please explain: Idaho_Shooter #14006224 07/27/19
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MtnBoomer Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Sep 2010 Posts: 31,415 59644	So, it's all cleared up. Species absolutely have never evolved from other species on planet Earth. There's a much more plausible explanation. Which is? "I can't be canceled, because, I don't give a fuuck!" --- Kid Rock 2022 Holocaust Deniers, the ultimate perverted dipchits: Bristoe, TheRealHawkeye, stophel, Ghostinthemachine, anyone else?

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