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Originally Posted by fredIII
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You need to mow! 😁


Why? smile smile smile


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nice pics lapua / MCH them mud bugs are fine dining

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Originally Posted by New_2_99s
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You take some great photos, man !


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It's summer Time lets see those bikes!

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Originally Posted by 44mc
nice pics lapua / MCH them mud bugs are fine dining


You know I moved to MT and had to shake my Trailer Park ways of Government Cheese and Ketchup Sandwich's!


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I did not know they had them big enuff to eat up their that is pretty cool. down here us trailer trash ride around at nite and catch bullfrogs out of the ditches

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Originally Posted by 44mc
I did not know they had them big enuff to eat up their that is pretty cool. down here us trailer trash ride around at nite and catch bullfrogs out of the ditches


Use to spear Frogs as a kid and cook up the legs. Diving for Crayfish is fun and refreshing on a hot summer day.


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Good lookin crawdads mch, need to go get a batch before summer's over.


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Silver fishing sucked yesterday but we still had fun. My youngest decided to C&R pinks and dollies until we ran out of eggs. Reminded me of when I was a kid and the bass weren't cooperating so I gave the perch patch hell.

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That a humpy your boy is holding? Any good for eatin? Looks like he lovin it!!


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Originally Posted by MontanaCreekHunter
It's summer Time lets see those bikes!

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This is a good segway to "who's hunting from a pedal bike this year?"

and can we get some pictures of how you configure your bike and rifle rack and load bearing trailer and .......


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That a humpy your boy is holding? Any good for eatin? Looks like he lovin it!!


Yup, that's a humpy. I've eaten them when they were bright and right out of the ocean. They were fine with a real mild meat. They turn real quick though and aren't any good for freezing IMO. I've got a buddy that cans and smokes up a bunch and I think that's what they're best suited for. Too many other tasty salmon to catch for me mess around with them a whole lot. Still, when nothing else is cooperating it's fun for the kids!

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Elements of a Good Shooting Position:

a) BONE SUPPORT
1. The weight of the weapon should be supported by bone rather than muscle because muscle fatigues whereas bones do not.

2. The shooter must establish a strong foundation for his rifle by utilizing bone support. This will enable the shooter to relax as much as possible while minimizing the movement of
the weapon due to muscle tension.

b) MUSCULAR RELAXATION
1. Muscular relaxation helps the shooter hold steady and increase the accuracy of his aim. Muscular relaxation allows the shooter to use maximum bone support which creates a
minimum arc of movement and consistency in resistance to recoil.

2. There is no way the shooter can have muscular relaxation without bone support. During the shooting process, the muscles of the body should be relaxed as much as possible.
Muscles that are tense will cause excessive movement of the rifle, thereby disturbing the aim. When proper bone support and muscular relaxation are not applied, the rifle will
never settle into an aiming point, thereby making it impossible for the shooter to apply trigger control to deliver a well-aimed shot.

3. Only through PRACTICE and achieving a natural point of aim will the shooter be able to apply proper muscular relaxation.

c) NATURAL POINT OF AIM
1. The point at which the rifle naturally rests in relation to the target when the shooter is completely relaxed.

2. Once the shooter is in position and aimed in on target, the method for checking NPA is for the shooter to close his eyes, take a couple of breaths, and relax as much as possible.
Upon opening his eyes, the scopes crosshairs should be positioned at the shooters desired aiming point.

3. Since the rifle now becomes an extension of the shooters body, it is necessary to adjust the position until the rifle rest naturally at the preferred aiming point on the target.

4. Once the natural point of aim has been determined, the shooter must hold his position in relation to the target to maintain his natural point of aim. In all shooting positions the NPA
can be checked and readjusted periodically.

FACTORS COMMON TO ALL SHOOTING POSITIONS
These factors are common to supported and unsupported shooting positions. They involve building a SOLID foundation from which the rifle can be fired. Once the shooter is satisfied with the stability of a position, it should not change except for minor variations to accommodate different typed of supports.

a) PLACEMENT OF THE NON-FIRING HAND AND ELBOW.
The exact placement of the non-shooting hand and elbow will depend on the height of the support used. For a very low prone position, the non-shooting hand will grasp the rear sling swivel (rear bag) in a fist or it might lie flat on the deck. The elbow rest comfortably without strain.

b) RIFLE BUTT IN THE POCKET OF THE SHOULDER.
The shooter places the rifle butt firmly into the pocket of his shoulder. The proper placement of the butt helps steady the rifle, prevents CANTING, prevents the rifle butt from slipping in the shoulder during recoil, and lessens the effect of the recoil.

c) GRIP OF THE SHOOTING HAND.
The shooting hand grips the stock firmly, but not rigidly. A firm handshake hold. The thumb extends over the small of the stock to enable the shooter to get a good grip. A proper grip permits the trigger to be pressed straight back to the rear without disturbing the aiming process.

d) REAR ELBOW.
The placement of the rear elbow gives balance to the shooters position. Correctly positioned, the elbow helps form the shoulder pocket. The exact location of the elbow varies with each position.

e) STOCK WELD.
The stock weld is the point of firm contact between the shooter’s cheek and the stock. The firm contact between the head and the rifle enables the head and rifle to recoil as one unit, facilitating rapid recovery between rounds. The stock weld also enables the eye to be positioned the same distance behind the eyepiece (eye relief) of the scope each time the rifle is fired. This guarantees the same field of view with each sight picture, further assisting in accurate aiming.

SUPPORTED POSITION FUNDAMENTALS.

a) Avoid touching any part of the support to the barrel. This will interrupt the barrels natural vibrations and can throw the round off.

b) Cushion the rifle on the support. This will keep the weapon from sliding around and steady the position.

c) Do not allow the side of the rifle to rest against the support. The rifle will recoil away from the support and can throw the round off.

SCOPE SIGHTING TECHNIQUES

a) Scope shadow.
During aiming, the shooter must ensure that there are no shadows in his field of view. He should see a clear black circle inside the scope. If the eye is to close, too far away, or off to
one side or the other, the shadows will appear. This will throw off shots fired. If a crescent shaped shadow is present, the eye is off center in relation to the scope. The shadow will
have the effect of pushing the shot fired in the direction opposite of the shadow. The shooter must adjust his position until the shadow disappears.

b) Eye Relief.
Eye relief is defined as the distance the shooters eye must be positioned from the eyepiece lens for the scope to function properly. If proper eye relief is not maintained, recoil may
cause the shooter to receive a blow to the head (scope bite, magnum eyebrow, etc.). Eye relief must be consistent for every shot.

c) Sight Picture.
1. Sight picture is the correct placement of the crosshairs on the target for the desired impact. For a correct sight picture, the point of intersection of the crosshairs is placed in the
center of the target mass resulting in a quartered target.

2. THE SHOOTERS ATTENTION SHOULD BE ON THIS INTERSECTION OF THE CROSSHAIRS AND NOT THE TARGET. The shooter should focus on the crosshairs without straining his eyes.
Intense concentration will eventually cause the image to blur. If the shooters is having trouble focusing on or seeing the crosshairs, his scope may need to be refocused.

TRIGGER CONTROL
The ability to move the trigger straight to the rear allowing the hammer to fall without disturbing the sights. The shooter should fire the shot exactly when the rifle settles to his aiming point, but it should be a subconscious effort not to disturb the crosshairs. This way, if the shooter can move the trigger without thinking about it (subconsciously), he can
concentrate on the crosshairs and getting his round on target.

2 TYPES OF TRIGGER CONTROL

a) Uninterrupted.
This is the preferred method. Once pressure is applied, firing of the shot is completed. The shooter is committed to an unchanging rate of pressure, no speeding up, slowing down or
stopping.

b) Interrupted.
This method of control is used in when the rifle will not settle into position, forcing the shooter to fire the shot when the target comes into his aiming point. Also called "timing you
shot". The shooter takes up initial pressure and begins normal trigger control. He then holds his position until he focuses on his crosshairs. He then moves the trigger until the shot
breaks. The shooter should not force his rifle by steering it into his aiming point. He should let the rifle move naturally toward and away from the target. If the rifle is moving
towards the target, the shooter continuously applies trigger pressure. If the rifle is moving away from the target, the shooter holds his position until the rifle starts drifting back
toward his aiming point. He then applies pressure to the trigger. If the shot breaks as the crosshairs are moving towards his aiming point, the shot will normally be inside his call.

FINGER PLACEMENT ON THE TRIGGER.
Finger placement on the trigger is correct when it allows the trigger to be pressed straight to the rear without disturbing the crosshairs. This will vary greatly from shooter to shooter and depends a great deal on the size of the shooters hand and his grip.

Errors in Trigger Control

a) Flinching. The shooters reaction to the anticipation of recoil of the exploding round.
b) Bucking. An attempt by the shooter to take up the recoil just before the rifle fires, by tensing up his shoulder muscles and moving his shoulder forward.
c. Jerking. An attempt by the shooter to make the rifle fire at a certain time by rapidly applying pressure on the trigger and disturbing the alignment of the rifle.

FOLLOW-THROUGH
The continuous application of the fundamentals of marksmanship after the shot has been fired. The shooter should not shift his position, move his head, or let the muzzle of the rifle drop until a few seconds after the rifle has been fired. Follow-through ensures that there is no undo movement of the rifle until after the shot has been fired. This will also enable the shooter to observe the strive of the round in relation to his aiming point, enabling him, if necessary, to adjust his aiming point and fire a second round.

BREATH CONTROL

a) Natural Respiratory Pause.
The point where the shooter is completely relaxed in his respiratory cycle. The point where the shooter takes a breath and exhales. This is a shooters NRP. Normally last just seconds during normal breathing but can be extended more for some shooters. This is the point at which you want to fire your shot. This pause should last as long as the shooter feels comfortable with it. It depends on the physical condition and the lung capacity of the individual. Obviously, holding your breath longer that what is comfortable will cause a lack of oxygen that can deteriorate vision and affect the shooters ability to focus on the sights.

Techniques for Natural Respiratory Pause.

a) Normal Breathing
The shooter breathes normally, and as he approaches taking the shot, he pauses, gets his point of aim, applies trigger pressure, and takes his shot. It is easier to obtain a good sight picture when breathing stops because the movement in the shooter’s chest, abdomen, and shoulder stops. This entire shot process takes place during the shooters Natural Respiratory Pause.

b) Decreased Breathing.
As the shooter approaches his shot, he applies his initial trigger pressure and decreases his breathing. He starts getting his aiming point as his breathing decreases to a pause. He ca achieve his proper aiming point during shallow breathing because he is not moving as much. He then pauses, obtains a good sight picture, and applies continual pressure to the trigger until the shot breaks.

c) Cardiopulmonary Pause.
As the heart beat is transmitted through the body, it causes a corresponding movement to his rifle. This is particularly apparent in an unsupported shooting position and affects shooting at long ranges. The heart beat is noticeable by the vertical movement of the crosshairs in the scope. To shoot effectively, the shooter should strive to fire the rifle so the trigger breaks at the lull of the heart beat for each shot.

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Wind:

Wind deflection is non- deterministic element and is the most difficult challenge for all types of long-range shooting.

Wind is air in motion; a fluid. Fluids have a nasty habit of being chaotic and difficult to predict in general.

Wind is not a constant textbook 10 mph crosswind, but a real world wind complete with velocity gradient, direction changes, eddies, pick-ups, let-offs, vertical components, etc.

Since you can’t reliably measure and account for wind deflection, the best you can do is minimize its uncertainty and it effects. This is the best technical approach to dealing with the wind problem.
There are two major things you can do to minimize the effects of wind:
Practice reading your wind skills; by observing the cause and effect relationship between the wind conditions and bullet deflection.
If you can obtain a real insight of how wind deflection works, you can make smart decisions about your equipment (rifle/bullet) that result in superior ballistics in the form of minimal wind deflection.

With a right hand twist rifle:
Wind from the left will deflect a bullet to the right and down.
Wind form the right will deflect a bullet to the left and up.

Wind Gradient:
Wind gradient refers to the tendency for air currents to move more swiftly farther off the ground. Even on a windy day, when you get right down in the dirt and weeds, there is essentially no wind. However, if you were to sample the wind 10 feet above the ground, you would find an even higher wind speed. Depending on the terrain, the wind may reach full speed at high or low altitude. In general, the smoother the ground is, (i.e.) a frozen lake or flat desert, the less altitude is required for the wind to develop its full velocity. On the contrary, if the ground is covered with this weeds, grass, shrubs, trees, etc, the wind may not reach full speed until a much higher altitude.
As the bullet arcs along it’s trajectory toward a distant target, it will rise, 10,15, even 20 feet above the ground and sometimes more than that if the shot goes over the valley. In that case, the bullet can be flying thru a wind speed that’s far greater than the shooter is able to sample from his position, or observe on the ground near the targets’ location.

Beating the wind:

Wind deflection is the most influential non-deterministic element in long range ballistics.

The best strategy for beating the uncertainty of wind deflection is to minimize its uncertainty and its effects.

Lag time is the fundamental measure of merit for wind deflection. Lag time is reduced by using high BC bullets and high muzzle velocity.

In a trade – off between low BC ( light weight) bullets at high speed compared to high BC ( heavy) bullets at reduced speed, the high BC bullets at lower speed will produce less lag time and wind deflection.

The academic debate between near wind and far wind is trumped by the unique realities of wind pattern to each specific range. The best policy for shooting in the wind is flexibility and critical assessment of the features unique to each range.

Wind does not blow on the side of the bullet to cause deflection. Instead, the bullet weather vanes into the oncoming airflow. A crosswind will make the bullet fly at a small angle to the line of sight. The aerodynamic drag applied to the bullet acts directly back along the bullet axis, which effectively pulls it away from the line of sight.

Wind gradient is when the wind velocity increases with increased height above the ground. It can be difficult to judge the wind speed high above the ground when shooting over valleys where there are no indicators, but you can usually count on higher velocity winds in such cases.

Cross wind weighting factors can be used to calculate the effects of multiple winds. The most wind sensitive portion of a bullet’s trajectory is not always the first segment. If the bullet will go transonic during its flight, that will dictate where the bullet is most sensitive.

Aerodynamic jump is a mechanism by which a bullet can have a vertical deflection when fired into a purely horizontal crosswind speed. This deflection is a constant angular deflection, roughly equal to .03 to .04 moa per mph of crosswind speed, and it depends on the gyroscopic stability of the bullet at the muzzle. The deflection is down for a left – right crosswind, and up for a right to left crosswind. These directions are reversed for a left twist barrel.

Point forward flight means that the nose of the bullet is always pointed straight into the oncoming air flow like a weather vane. Now the axis of the bullet is no longer aligned with the line of sight. Arrows are stabilized with fetching, and bullets are stabilized with spin, the both point their nose into the oncoming air flow when they are stable in flight.

For a given range and atmospheric condition, lag time and wind deflection depend on muzzle velocity and BC.


In general, a headwind will cause a bullet to slowdown faster and strike the target lower and vice versa for a tail wind.

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