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JW movies I can do without: True Grit The Shootist The Cowboys Sons Of Katie Elder McQ Brannigan Rooster Cogburn Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite) War Wagon The Undefeated This is a good list of John Wayne movies I ain't about to do without. The first and second are as good as it gets
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The new version is many times better. Just watched it again recently. I need some of whatever the hell it is you're smoking. Bridges is a piss poor substitute for John Wayne and that sir is a fact.
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JW movies I can do without: True Grit The Shootist The Cowboys Sons Of Katie Elder McQ Brannigan Rooster Cogburn Train Roberts (Never mind it has Ann Margret so its automatically a favorite) War Wagon The Undefeated This is a good list of John Wayne movies I ain't about to do without. The first and second are as good as it gets The first three are damn good movies. Anybody who thinks otherwise is obviously a liberal snowflake type.
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First movie would have been far better had Wayne summoned his Searchers or Hondo performance. Yep. And “The Searchers” is the greatest JW movie and greatest Western of all time!!! Boy, are you in for a treat when you watch The Man who shot Liberty Valance. Liberty Valance might be the best movie of all time. Tied with "To Kill a Mockingbird".
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Two things I appreciate about the older movies:
The actors were (or at least had the reputations of) decent, America loving folk, and
I could hear and understand the dialog.
It seems that ever since the late 80s, movie soundtracks are made to be "realistic" with tons of background sound (NOISE!) and music that drowns out the speech. Drives me crazy to watch a movie and only catch about half of what is said. ^^^This^^^ And there is also the overload of gratuitous cruelty in the newer movies.
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First movie would have been far better had Wayne summoned his Searchers or Hondo performance. Yep. And “The Searchers” is the greatest JW movie and greatest Western of all time!!! Boy, are you in for a treat when you watch The Man who shot Liberty Valance. Liberty Valance might be the best movie of all time. Tied with "To Kill a Mockingbird". Ha. None of those would even make my top 50.
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True Grit is good movie material and a good movie in either version. Wayne nailed the character as did some others but Kim Darby and Glen Campbell were weak, very. This movie was and is great but could have been so much better with better actors in those two roles. Wayne's dialogue is impeccable. Over and over again, he just nails it. "By God, she reminds me of me." "I ain't never met no Texican I couldn't shade." "Fill your hand, you sonovabitch!" The whole drunken "rat writ" bit. All first rate acting. Finally, John Wayne hasn't made a move in 43 years. Has been dead for 40 years. And is still a Top Ten movie star
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Since I was a kid, I've always liked High Noon, but apparently John Wayne said it seemed like communist propaganda to him. He didn't figure there was a town in the Old West where the sheriff or marshal couldn't have gotten whatever size posse he thought he'd need for such a situation, and to suggest otherwise was communist propaganda. The screenplay for High Noon was written by Carl Foreman, a screenwriter who was blacklisted in Hollywood for being a communist. He wrote the screenplay as an allegory of the fact that some Hollywood actors and writers did not support the various communists in show business during the House UnAmerica Committee Hearings. Go to .... https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0286025/?ref_=nv_sr_1?ref_=nv_sr_1... and click on Foreman's biography. I was never a fan of High Noon because even when I first saw it on big screen when it was released, I never believed the premise, either. In real life, when Marshal Will Kane went to the church and asked for help, about a dozen of the male citizens would have stood up, gone home and got their rifles and shotguns, and when the train arrived at "high noon," would have greeted Frank Miller and his thugs with a warning that if they so much as lifted a finger, they'd all be "eatin' hot lead!" But Hollywood isn't about "real life." It's about "reel life." FWIW. L.W.
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myself a just enjoy a good cowboy movie and now even this new type version cowboy movie YELLOWSTONE is fun to watch. in the YELLOWSTONE show when those cowboys put that big nasty black Angus bull in the bar was wild.
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True Grit is good movie material and a good movie in either version. Wayne nailed the character as did some others but Kim Darby and Glen Campbell were weak, very. This movie was and is great but could have been so much better with better actors in those two roles. Wayne's dialogue is impeccable. Over and over again, he just nails it. "By God, she reminds me of me." "I ain't never met no Texican I couldn't shade." "Fill your hand, you sonovabitch!" The whole drunken "rat writ" bit. All first rate acting. Finally, John Wayne hasn't made a move in 43 years. Has been dead for 40 years. And is still a Top Ten movie star Exactly !
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The short scene with Strother Martin as the horse trader was great. "I heard a small child fell in a well".
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The short scene with Strother Martin as the horse trader was great. "I heard a small child fell in a well". Yep. Great scene and a great character actor too.
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I loved the original, I've watched it at least a dozen times. I could barely sit through the remake.
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Wayne didn’t really nail the dialogue. In both movies, the dialogue was pretty much word for word from the book.
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Wayne didn’t really nail the dialogue. In both movies, the dialogue was pretty much word for word from the book. The reason people went to see John Wayne movies, was to see John Wayne in a movie. All the criticism of John Wayne is wasted on his acting. Like his acting or not, Wayne was iconic and his last roles were probably his best as he was playing John Wayne being John Wayne. If you didn't like "True Grit" or the "Shootist" you have little appreciation for just how good John Wayne was...
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Wayne didn’t really nail the dialogue. In both movies, the dialogue was pretty much word for word from the book. The reason people went to see John Wayne movies, was to see John Wayne in a movie. All the criticism of John Wayne is wasted on his acting. Like his acting or not, Wayne was iconic and his last roles were probably his best as he was playing John Wayne being John Wayne. If you didn't like "True Grit" or the "Shootist" you have little appreciation for just how good John Wayne was... I didn’t and haven’t criticized his acting at all. I just pointed out that the dialogue was straight from the book.
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I loved the original, I've watched it at least a dozen times. I could barely sit through the remake. Yes, I am that way as well.
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No reason not to like both versions. Enjoy the movie for a movie. It ya sit there and look for every detail to be right you better just read the book. You can then use your imagination to make everything perfect to your standards. Ed k
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The only thing better in the new version to me was the actress who played the little girl. She was much better than Kim Darby. And the actress who played her as a older lady was good too. Matt Damon absolutely sucked and his fake accent was down right stupid.
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Wayne didn’t really nail the dialogue. In both movies, the dialogue was pretty much word for word from the book. The reason people went to see John Wayne movies, was to see John Wayne in a movie. All the criticism of John Wayne is wasted on his acting. Like his acting or not, Wayne was iconic and his last roles were probably his best as he was playing John Wayne being John Wayne. If you didn't like "True Grit" or the "Shootist" you have little appreciation for just how good John Wayne was... Yep.
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