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Apparently you don't consider what can be found through logic as "evidence." Apparently if A==B and B==C then A==C is drivel. Spock would disapprove.

The words say what they say and mean what they mean. The first Christians expected the return of Jesus In power within their lifetimes, as the words say and as promised. Check the history. It's there for anyone to see and read.

It's neither an arrogant statement or an innacurate one. It's simply the case that faith based beliefs are problematic. You only have to look at the contradictions between faiths, Hinduism, Islam, Judaism, Christianity, etc, etc, to see the problems with faith as a means of determining truth.

This @sshole is paddler.

Ha, the true colours emerge.

Stephen Meyer.
Here's the first line from his Wiki page:

tephen C. Meyer (born 1958) is an American advocate of the pseudoscientific principle of intelligent design.

Pseudoscience consists of statements, beliefs, or practices that are claimed to be both scientific and factual, but are incompatible with the scientific method. Pseudoscience is often characterized by contradictory, exaggerated or unfalsifiable claims; reliance on confirmation bias rather than rigorous attempts at refutation; lack of openness to evaluation by other experts; and absence of systematic practices when developing theories, and continued adherence long after they have been experimentally discredited.

Where do you find "in their lifetime" in scripture? Remember, many of the first Christians saw things in light of Judaic teaching which is quite different than teaching in the new testament.

Nice non-answer. I'll ask again: What "problems" do you have with other people's faith?

That depends upon how the specific deity in question is defined, but no, it does not preclude all definitions.

First you let Google's algorithms do your thinking and now you ask us to believe that because someone said something on the internet, it's indubitably true. Your responses reek of desperation.

you mean like a dog with its nose pressed against a butchershop window and thinking;

"so close yet so far away"..

You are wrong.
Cosmology struggles to determine the origin of the universe. There are several conficting theories. A wise man admits we have no definitive answer.

Abiogenisis is a study of how living cells could emerge from the primordial ooze. Once again, no clear answers are available.

Evolution is how those original living cells, no matter the source, became the complex organisms extant on the Earth today, as well as the millions or billions of organisms long extinct. The evidence to support evolution is overwhelm8ngbto any who would look at it with an open mind.

But does scripture not tell us to ignore anything which MIGHT come between one and his faith in what he believes God to be.



You are conflating the three fields of study in an effort to discredit one field.

That's a separate proposition that has nothing to do with the current discussion.

Ringman,

try reading your Bible again, Jesus didn't send the Holy Spirit.

Jesus asks the Father to send the holy Spirit in his sons name.

Jesus does nothing of his own, but credits everything to the Father in heaven.


John 14:16
"I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper,.."
John 14:26
"But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name,.."
Acts 2:33
"Therefore having been exalted to the right hand of God, and having received from the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit,.."
Ephesians 1:17
"that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the knowledge of Him".

Faith-based belief is by definition based on faith, not evidence...

You don't see the problem with that?

If your standard of proof is that everybody that benefits from the subject believes in it, as paddler stated, then you would believe equally in both theories.

By that standard, AGW is just as valid as the theory of evolution.

If paddler is to be believed, all evolutionists would also believe in AGW.

Course, we know where paddler stands:

It's not that I gave a 'non answer' but that my answer was not understood.

The issue is not with what is wrong with someones faith, which may bring comfort, a sense of community, a sense of meaning, but the efficacy of faith as a means of sorting fact from fiction. The history of faith with its countless contradictory beliefs, religions, ideologies, testifies that faith is not a reliable means of discovery or determining truth.

That's ridiculous.

Nope.

The law of non-contradiction is one of the three laws of logic.

The posted presupposed attributes of god were just unsupported assertions.

There's no equivalence between the two propositions.

Ringman,

I'm disappointed in you.

Typically you don't misrepresent the contents of the Bible.