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I have never heard of this brand before. My not so local dealer got a pretty good sized shipment in the other day as shown on his website. Are they worth the coin? They are in the 415-499 range 25,32 and 380.
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They were the 'cats meow' back when people talked that way.
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Ancient technology. There is better stuff out there today. I got rid of an older .32 ACP version because I could see no benefit in keeping it.
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I have never heard of this brand before. My not so local dealer got a pretty good sized shipment in the other day as shown on his website. Are they worth the coin? They are in the 415-499 range 25,32 and 380. They are nicely made little guns. At one time, they were the ultimate CCW, and there was a huge demand for them. Since then, however, there have been many less expensive designs that serve the same function, such as the Ruger LCP. Also, holsters have advanced since then to the point that most people can conceal a more effective gun on their belts. Both factors have lowered interest in the Seecamp guns.
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$400 for a Seecamp. Talk about upside down. We always say if we could take money back in time...
If one could take $4k worth of Seecamps (10) back to the eighties, And turn them into Pythons, you could bring back 15 to 20 guns that run over 2k. Those things retailed high, but the demand was so big you had to wait years to get one. New ones sold for retail X 2, easy.
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Only the 25 auto makes sense today. Kelgren proved that a locked breach is needed for more power in a tiny pistol.
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Only the 25 auto makes sense today. Kelgren proved that a locked breach is needed for more power in a tiny pistol.
Of P32 fame?
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Ruger LCP 380. Thank me later. You can usually find them on sale for $180 or less.
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Only the 25 auto makes sense today. Kelgren proved that a locked breach is needed for more power in a tiny pistol.
Of P32 fame? Yes, all of the tiny blow-back pistols chambered in 32 and 380 were problematic. The P32 was a breakthrough.
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Ruger LCP 380. Thank me later. You can usually find them on sale for $180 or less. Yep, or you just can't stand them, there's LCP II, Kahr 380 and several others. IOW, Seecamp once owned the market, but no longer.
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I have been down the Kahr P380 road. They finally sent me a double spring and that sort of helped but it still jammed occasionally . The gun has over 500 rounds thru it as well.
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I own a Seecamp 32 and a Ruger LCP. I carry a 642 J-frame when I want to deep conceal.
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I've owned 2 Seecamp .32s.
They feel like a Swiss watch but with the .32 and .380 guns you have to shoot ammo off of an approved list. Most .32 fmj is too long to fit in the mag and I think the same applies to the .380. I ordered two new mags for the one I owned last year. Both would eject live rounds while shooting. A Seecamp dealer told me this was a known issue and that Seecamp would replace the mags. But they were NEW MAGS!!
I've never shot the .380 but the kindest thing I've heard about the recoil is that it's punishing. It's so bad that it regularly breaks the mag followers. I think an aftermarket company actually makes a replacement follower that is not supposed to break.
They were just a little too high maintenance for me. Like the poster above, I've gone with an LCP. No ammo restrictions, feeds anything, not painful to shoot.
But.... not as sexy as a Seecamp.
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I've a .32 virtually new. Probably less than 20 shots, and that guess is likely high. A now deceased friend had a standing order with Seecamp for, I believe, two per year back when they had a long waiting list. I wasn't really looking for one, but it seemed a good opportunity at the time, as they were "unicorns" back in the day. He sold it to me for his cost. I don't remember the amount, but he basically said "That's a good deal. I'm doing you a favor. I don't want to see it on the internet next week." So I hung onto it all these years.
They are small, obviously smaller than an LCP. But they are like a little brick, as they are all stainless steel. The Swiss watch comparison above is a good one. I call them "the Rolex of mouse guns", but I think I stole that line somewhere. I agree they aren't as practical as LCP's and similar, but the Seecamp has cool factor, that's for sure. If someone ever made a decent laser sight for it, I might even use it. (I'm a big fan of lasers on SD guns, especially mouse guns with short barrels and dinky sights. hell, the Seecamp has NO sights.)
The website is interesting. Larry Seecamp has his own ideas about ammo, etc. You may or may not agree with him, but it is clear he has put some thought into his views.
I guess I keep hoping for a "collector surge."
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