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http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2019/08/06/gop-momentum-builds-behind-red-flag-laws/

Red Flag laws.
This is the real deal.

What's that line from cool hand Luke...
gotta get your mind right.


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When my neighbor's wife gets into the bottle, she is likely to red flag me.

They want my parking spot.


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Finally ! A loophole that can be used to circumvent due process..... I can hear it now: "WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN DUE PROCESS !!!! ".

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What will happen when this (POS) “law” reaches the Supreme Court ?
No due process ?
What recourse do the victims (targeted gun owners) have ?
Who makes the decision to confiscate ?
What if the police hurt someone or damage property in the process of confiscation ?
What happens when an angry ex spouse or neighbor “Red Flags” someone out of spite ?
What happens if they take someone’s self defense firearm, and then he/she get attacked ?
Too, too many questions that cannot be answered.
I predict this law will not survive the courts.


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Originally Posted by Anaconda


I predict this law will not survive the courts.



Maybe that’s the whole point?

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What if you no longer can get to the higher court?
Have you considered that if they can kill you because you have a gun they don't want you to have, they can kill you because you hold a belief they don't what you to have.
Due process is gone, so you want the court to give it back??? Is that likely?
And lets just say the court agrees with you, but the cops don't. Do you think the cops, when they are given carte blanche to harm and kill, are going to give back any of that power?


People need to wake up and realize this is an open and direct act of war.
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Either trump is naïve; or Soros had two horses in the race






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Originally Posted by szihn

People need to wake up and realize this is an open and direct act of war.
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That's a big yawn on the campfire.


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Now’s the day and now’s the hour.
See the front o’ battle lour
See approach proud “Marxist" power
Chains and slavery!!!

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Lay the proud usurpers low!
Tyrants fall in every foe!
Liberty's in every blow!—
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Just who do you support? Other than Wayne La?
Think the witch would have been better? Cruz?
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We got it stuffed down our throats in IL by our demo trimvirate of house, Senate and gov. I think soon we will be the most gun unfriendly, regulated state of all.

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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Just who do you support? Other than Wayne La?
Think the witch would have been better? Cruz?
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You stupid bastards don't get it do ya's? Trump is president, no one else.


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Originally Posted by Anaconda
What will happen when this (POS) “law” reaches the Supreme Court ?
No due process ?
What recourse do the victims (targeted gun owners) have ?
Who makes the decision to confiscate ?
What if the police hurt someone or damage property in the process of confiscation ?
What happens when an angry ex spouse or neighbor “Red Flags” someone out of spite ?
What happens if they take someone’s self defense firearm, and then he/she get attacked ?
Too, too many questions that cannot be answered.
I predict this law will not survive the courts.


It's gotta get there first...


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My mind is a bit twisted this morning. It'd be hilarious if the NRA helped craft red flag legislation then turned around and had it challenged in court.

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contact your US Representative.

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Originally Posted by Anaconda
What will happen when this (POS) “law” reaches the Supreme Court ?
No due process ?
What recourse do the victims (targeted gun owners) have ?
Who makes the decision to confiscate ?
What if the police hurt someone or damage property in the process of confiscation ?
What happens when an angry ex spouse or neighbor “Red Flags” someone out of spite ?
What happens if they take someone’s self defense firearm, and then he/she get attacked ?
Too, too many questions that cannot be answered.
I predict this law will not survive the courts.


One hopes, but we were certain Obamacare would go down in flames in the SCOTUS, too.

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IF Red Flag law ever happens and that's a big if, it may never make it to the Supreme Court. Remember who is chief justice thanks to GWB. And if he schedules it who is to say that it will be rejected by a majority? Kavanaugh has been more liberal than conservative in his judgements since they handed his head to him in the conformation hearing.

Roberts has almost never voted the constitution instead favoring the liberal view. The ultra liberals on the court will never abandon their ideology but the so called conservatives pride themselves on their occasional liberal leanings. About the only person I trust on the court is Justice Thomas.

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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Just who do you support? Other than Wayne La?
Think the witch would have been better? Cruz?
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Oddly, the Witch might actually have been better on guns, because she doesn't pretend to be our friend, and clearly wants to take them. This would result in a filling up of the House and Senate with stalwart defenders of the RTKABA to stop her every effort in that regard. Gun rights people tend to fall asleep when there's a Republican in the White House. When there's a Democrat, they tend to burn up the phone circuits in Congress any time there's even a hint of anti-gun legislation being considered.

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Originally Posted by 7mmbuster
Just who do you support? Other than Wayne La?
Think the witch would have been better? Cruz?
7mm

Oddly, the Witch might actually have been better on guns, because she doesn't pretend to be our friend, and clearly wants to take them. This would result in a filling up of the House and Senate with stalwart defenders of the RTKABA to stop her every effort in that regard. Gun rights people tend to fall asleep when there's a Republican in the White House. When there's a Democrat, they tend to burn up the phone circuits in Congress any time there's even a hint of anti-gun legislation being considered.
If McClown or Mittens had been President when Sandy Hook happened there's no telling what would have went down.

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Originally Posted by szihn
What if you no longer can get to the higher court?
Have you considered that if they can kill you because you have a gun they don't want you to have, they can kill you because you hold a belief they don't what you to have.
Due process is gone, so you want the court to give it back??? Is that likely?
And lets just say the court agrees with you, but the cops don't. Do you think the cops, when they are given carte blanche to harm and kill, are going to give back any of that power?


People need to wake up and realize this is an open and direct act of war.
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16 states already have red flag laws.
Red flag laws are wrong on so many levels.
We would be at the mercy of wicked neighbors in-laws and capricious judges.

It really is an act war... straight up.


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