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No one knows for sure---yet. But we are certain how life evolved once it existed.

Good question. The answer is...nobody knows. "God did it" is as good an explanation as any. But then who created God?

Thanks for the honesty.
Why does God "need" to be created if nothing else does in the universe?

3584elk, contrary to the popular mantra, not all questions are good questions. Obviously, you are not asking a serious question, why dignify it with a serious answer. Try a little harder at your facetious questions next time.

No. You are mistakenly assuming that humans are descended from living apes. In fact, humans and modern apes are both descended from an earlier species of ape.

If a population is separated into two groups, living in different environments, each group will evolve different characteristics and (eventually) not be able to mate with the other group. For instance Caucasians and Asians separated from Negroes about 70,000 years ago. Each group has evolved many features different from the other though they can still interbreed. Humans and [bleep] separated much earlier, about 7 million years ago. They have greater differences and cannot interbreed.

Incidentally humans are more closely related to [bleep] than [bleep] are to gorillas.

God didn't necessarily "need" to be created. So how could God "always" exist? Perhaps what was created was time, and without time the word "always" has no meaning. We know for a fact that "time" was created along with all matter, energy, and even the laws of physics, by the big bang. Incidentally that means that physics can never discover what caused the Big Bang or whether or not something called "God" did it.

clearly, there's something "strange" going on with us humans.

we are converting natural earth artifact material into human artifacts at a record rate.

that is, it's almost as if we're automatons, and we're associating to convert the natural earth.

but into what? big cities? we've already got big cities. we know who they are and what they do.

that is they consume. think of 15 billion humans. two times as many big cities.. that's a bunch for sure.

the thinking of "humans" on the earth are becoming divergent. the old school, vs. the new school. it's inevitable?

fact is, the religionists have their position and the scientists have their position based upon belief or science. but which?

what i would like to do while we screw around and debate what happened some 10,000 or more year ago is to lower taxes.

Gus, I marvel at you. I still think you toy with us.

Gus, always the pragmatist!

Good on you.

Geno

PS, the rest of y'all still haven't figured it out yet I guess.............................party on Dudes.

No it's not. The article simply exposes the dishonesty and the tactics of Theists who make false claims about evolution and statistical probability.

It is not being pointed out that - ''the mathematical, logical and statistical evidence all require a self-existent eternal Designer to bring things miraculously into existence because science proves that it cannot happen any other way. All the evidence is there to logically require the existence of God'' - that is something that is being claimed and asserted. A false assertion.

It has been pointed out that this claim is false and the reasons why it is false have been given. Yet the claim is repeated and asserted time and time again regardless.

''A new mathematical model developed by researchers at the University of Pennsylvania has offered even more evidence of the correctness of evolutionary theory.

Herbert Wilf, Penn’s Thomas A. Scott Emeritus Professor of Mathematics, and Warren Ewens, emeritus professor of biology, say their model directly challenges the long-standing contention among some doubters that evolution couldn't have happened because the small changes in species outlined by the theory simply would have taken too much time to be completed.''


''Their works shows that, under a very reasonable model of mutations and natural selection, the time required to evolve a very complex organism is vastly smaller than might be presumed. As a result, the idea that evolution would require "too much time" to be true is proved false''


"If, when we guess the full string of letters [for a new species], one of the letters is correct — for instance, one that describes correctly the eyes of a butterfly — then that letter has survival value," he said.

"It will not be discarded as future mutations take place because the intermediate creatures are seeing very well, and they will live and reproduce. So although it seems at first glance that the process of random mutations will take a very long time to produce a higher organism, thanks to the spying of natural selection, the process can go very rapidly.''

Which shows that you have no understanding of science. Religion is your thing. Creation through Magic. Rather than scientific research into the natural world, preferring the explanation that a Magical undetectable Entity did it, ancient mythology over reason.



It's quite ironic when the purveyors of Bronze age myths talk about the intelligence of their opponents. But that's the nature and tactics of faith when under threat for you.

If you can't see that there are no contradictions between 'Life evolves for reasons that have nothing to do with a God'' and ''there is no evidence for the existence of a God'' or that ''evolution does not need a creator/god as explanation'' there is no hope of understanding.

Once again, evolution does not need a Creator as an explanation for how organisms adapt and evolve. Therefore the burden of proof falls upon those who make the claim of creation, intelligent design or irreducible complexity.

In other words, justification of beliefs and claims.

God, being undetectable, is not something that is falsifiable. You can claim Micky Mouse runs the Universe for all its worth.

The chances of an explosion causing the formation of one protein out of hundreds it takes to make a cell is 1x10 to the 27th power.

IOW, put all the components in a pile and explode it enough times to end up with an airliner and that's the chances of creating one cell protein.

The Lord has set a great dilusion on you.

God, being undetectable, is not something that is falsifiable. You can claim Micky Mouse runs the Universe for all its worth.


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Undetectable doesn't mean nonexistent.

He isn't undetectable to many of us.

Saying Micky runs the universe is a lie. Saying the Creator runs it isn't.

Well said.

You still don't get it. I'm not claiming anything, you are.

With God having always existed; Where was God situated before the universe came to be ...
and where is God now relative to the universe?

Where is this destination heaven that Jesus travelled to on his acsention?

DBT,

Your blind faith due to brain washing is preventing you from keeping up with Thunderstick's posts.

Who are these bleeps you keep referring to? Are you trying to type chimpanzees?