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So if we charge 10% tariff........on exchange goods from China that devalues its currency 10% are we not getting goods at 90% and giving the government a 10% value added tax?
How is this not a good deal?
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Whatta you been takin night classes at the Salmon community college? Holy smokes man.
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It’s another example of Trump being right when he said that China would pay the tariffs.
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All I know is that our gas price dropped almost 30c/gal overnight and it’s being blamed on Trump’s tariffs.
So, I say “GO Trump!”
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China says they are not playing. No more US Ag goods will be bought. Will put a crimp in our ranchers and farmers, who are by and large Trump supporters. Will have to see how this plays out??
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China says they are not playing. No more US Ag goods will be bought. Will put a crimp in our ranchers and farmers, who are by and large Trump supporters. Will have to see how this plays out?? The chinks can eat precious metals
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China says they are not playing. No more US Ag goods will be bought. Will put a crimp in our ranchers and farmers, who are by and large Trump supporters. Will have to see how this plays out?? An obvious sign they are desperate. Since the Party leaders will not have to suffer, they don't care. Political prisoners will starve and the masses will go to bed hungry at night. But, the Party bosses will do well. Our beef and pork prices should drop. kwg
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Since last week when Kamala Harris blamed Trump in the debate for "soybeans are rotting in the fields" I've been looking through articles. Most from last fall. Articles about Soybean farmers holding on to all their grain, stashing it in silos, grain bins, and containers because they thought the price was to low. Hoping the market to China would open and price would jump. They played the market and it didn't work. Happens to everyone, crop farmers, cattle farmers, precious metals, stock market speculation. What really gets me is ( I know I'm small time) if Cattle prices plunged today to a price that I couldn't make money. I'ld be looking at sheep, corn, wheat, alfalfa hay... but these guys just keep planting what they already know there isn't a market for.
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This also will make the dollar stronger...........
Remember Angela merkel the new leader of the free world?
If you buy German bonds ....your 100 euros in 10 years will be worth 96.
Therefore is not Our stocks, bonds, are gonna be where the worlds wealth will flock?
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I totally agree we need to quit subsidizing soybeans........
USA should grow crops that the USA wants to consume.....not china.
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Since last week when Kamala Harris blamed Trump in the debate for "soybeans are rotting in the fields" I've been looking through articles. Most from last fall. Articles about Soybean farmers holding on to all their grain, stashing it in silos, grain bins, and containers because they thought the price was to low. Hoping the market to China would open and price would jump. They played the market and it didn't work. Happens to everyone, crop farmers, cattle farmers, precious metals, stock market speculation. What really gets me is ( I know I'm small time) if Cattle prices plunged today to a price that I couldn't make money. I'ld be looking at sheep, corn, wheat, alfalfa hay... but these guys just keep planting what they already know there isn't a market for. Duck hunting in Western KY in December. Guy we hunt with said their small town reeked of rotten soybeans for several weeks... Because the fields kept flooding and it was too wet to get the beans out of the fields... Farmers holding onto and storing grain in hopes of better prices has been going on LONG before Trump became President. Let alone China tariffs.
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Since last week when Kamala Harris blamed Trump in the debate for "soybeans are rotting in the fields" I've been looking through articles. Most from last fall. Articles about Soybean farmers holding on to all their grain, stashing it in silos, grain bins, and containers because they thought the price was to low. Hoping the market to China would open and price would jump. They played the market and it didn't work. Happens to everyone, crop farmers, cattle farmers, precious metals, stock market speculation. What really gets me is ( I know I'm small time) if Cattle prices plunged today to a price that I couldn't make money. I'ld be looking at sheep, corn, wheat, alfalfa hay... but these guys just keep planting what they already know there isn't a market for. Duck hunting in Western KY in December. Guy we hunt with said their small town reeked of rotten soybeans for several weeks... Because the fields kept flooding and it was too wet to get the beans out of the fields... Farmers holding onto and storing grain in hopes of better prices has been going on LONG before Trump became President. Let alone China tariffs. Oh I agree, But the reason it's actually happening, and why a debate candidate says it's happening are rarely going to be the same. I wanted to know what her angle was.
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Since last week when Kamala Harris blamed Trump in the debate for "soybeans are rotting in the fields" I've been looking through articles. Most from last fall. Articles about Soybean farmers holding on to all their grain, stashing it in silos, grain bins, and containers because they thought the price was to low. Hoping the market to China would open and price would jump. They played the market and it didn't work. Happens to everyone, crop farmers, cattle farmers, precious metals, stock market speculation. What really gets me is ( I know I'm small time) if Cattle prices plunged today to a price that I couldn't make money. I'ld be looking at sheep, corn, wheat, alfalfa hay... but these guys just keep planting what they already know there isn't a market for. I have farmers on both sides of my family as resources and they never plant anything that won't sell and the soybeans are not rotting in the fields. That lying slut says whatever comes to her evil mind and hopefully will be ran over by a semi. The soybeans are in the field as many didn't get planted on time this year due to bad weather cycles of lots of rain. Everything that comes out of a lieberals mouth is a lie.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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There’s no spare soybeans or any food for that matter in the world. If China doesn’t buy our agricultural products then they have to buy from someplace else. Whoever was buying those products previously now needs to find their food elsewhere. Our products will be sold and the reality is that China will still buy most of what they were buying from us from us. It will just go through a middleman country with a little tacked on for the services of a middleman. China will simply pay more for the farce that they’re not buying products from the USA.
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“U.S. Department of Agriculture is estimating world soybean production in the 2017/2018 market year will be 346.02 million metric tons. Three countries, Brazil, Argentina and the U.S., are projected to produce over 82% of the world's soybeans.“ We grow 34% of the worlds soybeans and our market share of export soybeans is 42%. If China doesn’t buy from the USA then really there’s only Brazil and Argentina.
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There’s no spare soybeans or any food for that matter in the world. If China doesn’t buy our agricultural products then they have to buy from someplace else. Whoever was buying those products previously now needs to find their food elsewhere. Our products will be sold and the reality is that China will still buy most of what they were buying from us from us. It will just go through a middleman country with a little tacked on for the services of a middleman. China will simply pay more for the farce that they’re not buying products from the USA. This ^^^^^^ is my read on the subject. It'll just be a shell game with China paying for the bragging rights to say that they are not buying from the U.S.
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A country that can't feed itself must be careful who they won't deal with, there is only so much food. Lots of people I know like to eat every day.
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I totally agree we need to quit subsidizing soybeans........
USA should grow crops that the USA wants to consume.....not china. Sounds good on the surface but the subsidies U.S. farmers get is not for us rather it's for the whole nation ....stable food supply and price.. Right now soybean price is below cost of production...we could just stop planting them and plant corn on those acres and kill that market Then what we all go bankrupt then you have to try and buy food from China.... Here is the problem ...past administrations have marketed 60 percent of our crops to China...great for us in the short term...no bisness mind in the world would prefer that in a bisness plan... Too much risk to fragile.. Our bisness mastermind president has killed the 60 percent and is developing that same 60 percent market broke up into smaller markets...like India Egypt and many others...we as farmers were asked to try and hold out..the MFE payments are just to make up the differance no one is getting rich it's just to break even...hopefully in the long run we will be back to 15 dollar beans where they should be instead of 8 dollars..
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[quote=JoeBob]It’s another example of Trump being right when he said that China would pay the tariffs.
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The first farm bill ever introduced by congress was vetoed by the president Calvin Coolidge.
He stated and I paraphrase
" Once this deal gets started........it will never stop."
I hope crop farmers can someday get off the government tit!
Works for the beef industry.
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