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Catholics never stop their convoluted spin, its like doctor shopping or courtroom judge shopping.

they keep fishing around till they get to hear what they want.


Catholics and their saints , lol.

So then God is evil, even to Jesus. He just loves tormenting us. Who knew.

Next: We can agree there is some good in the world. Proves God doesn't exist or he'd stomp it out.

The moral and physical evil that happened to Jesus could not happen unless the Father pre-planned it.

same goes for the moral and physical calamities suffered by Job.

Asaiah 45:7 does not say God is evil , but it does say God creates such.

Oh, I dunno. The majority of bibles I cited which have a different interpretation of Isaiah 45:7 were adopted by Protestants.

Seems to me that creating evil defines one as being evil.

if that's what you personally choose to believe, so be it.

cannot God have a purpose for evil without being evil himself?

No.

Good and evil are opposites. If God was good and evil that would be self contradictory, he'd be opposing himself.

First off it needs to be shown that your God exists. For example, how do you feel about the Hindu gods? Do they exist? Can you tell them to ''stick it?'' Can you insult Brahma? Maybe Shiva will get upset?

Your bible tells you that God creates not only evil but the evildoer for the ''day of evil''

The key being ''infinite goodness'' - the presence of evil means that goodness is not infinite. The presence of evil means that God is part good, part evil

"The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.'' Proverbs 16:4

If Christ rose from the dead, all your atheist arguments are folly, if he didn’t, Christians (especially those persecuted around the world) are to be most pitied. As for me, I believe he physically rose from the dead and that there is plenty of evidence to support that conclusion. Convince yourself of the opposite if you wish. We all make choices.

We are convinced, or not, for reasons other than 'making choices' - information that appears convincing to some may not appear convincing to others. That is not a choice.

Can you choose to not believe something that you are convinced is true?

You are certainly free to at as if you do not believe. Happens all the time. We call it "sin."

You didn't answer the question: can you choose to disbelieve that of which you are convinced is true? Or in other words, did you choose to believe what you believe through an act of will?

Are you saying that all Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, etc, etc, chose to be Muslims or whatever through an act of will rather than a process of conviction, conditioning, culture, birth and so on?

Can you disbelieve what you believe? Nonsensical question. You can change your beliefs or choose to act contrary to what you believe. A belief may not be well founded or strongly held, or may even be in error if that's what you're asking.

It's not a nonsensical question in the face of the claim that it is sinful to not believe/reject God/free will issue.

If a belief is a process of conviction, then it is not a willed process, it is the information we acquire that either convinces us or not. Whether we find something convincing also depends on many factors, education, mental capacity to understand, hopes, fears, desires, biases, flaws...none of which include 'free will'

So if a God, assuming existence for the sake of argument, sees sin in a lack of conviction in the absence of evidence, and condemns people on that basis...there is something very seriously wrong.

One either chooses to believe or not. We all have free will and sometimes we trust what we think we know rather than what truly is. God gives us a choice. In the end you will reap the reward you have earned.

Nice threat.

Now demonstrate that your god actually exists.

It's not a threat just a statement and we all will eventually find out.