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I know what it is, but it doesn't help. It is still being researched, but it is known that the brain can give a final burst of exceptional activity in the moment of death, which not only produces terminal lucidity but near death experiences.

Even patients who suffer from permanent memory loss may have moments or short periods of relative lucidity, like the connections somehow come together for a period then fail.

Nor does TL occur with all patients with memory loss. It is being researched. As yet, there are no conclusions, there being something like 83 cases of terminal lucidity in the last 250 years, some accounts (not certain).

Recent findings of surges in brain activity at the point of death seem to indicate that the brain is very active at the time when the body is shutting down

''But could a ‘rational’ explanation exist? We can only speculate, but there are cases of individuals, often autistic, who go years without speaking, but later demonstrate the ability. These are murky waters most of the evidence is anecdotal. It sometimes involves ‘facilitated communication’ (of which the Ehmer case could be seen as a kind of strange prototype). But the mere fact that Ehmer did not speak, doesn’t prove that she could not speak.''


TL is not definitive proof of an afterlife or non material mind.

83 cases, reported cases compiled by whom? Could be many more.

Doesn't prove anything but is one of those things that makes you go, "Hmmm?"

In case you forgot the original issue was ancient Greeks and their belief that there is an aspect to human existence beyond the physical, distinguishing us from animals.

The ancient Greeks were great thinkers but that does not mean that they were right about everything they deduced about the nature of the world.

this has been the one greatest schism between the pharisees, sadducees, and the heathens, pagans and others involving greece & egypt?

i don't have the "training" nor knowledge to disagree with any of their various beliefs, or ideas.

indeed, did humans come here to live, & die?

or did they come here to live, die & then depart?

serious stuff here. it divides a lot of tribal groups.

It is a starting point, THE starting point for Western thought. You have to deal with those guys first.

Or to learn. And not just of this physical universe.

There could be many more, however it does not happen in the majority of cases of brain damage and dying. Which indicates that there was some residual function activated under a final frantic burst of neuronal activity. There are probably far more living patients with brain damage/memory function loss that have moments of lucidity. There are some who have been in a coma for decades, yet became conscious. What can be said confidently is that the brain is an absolute marvel of complexity and functionality

Sure.

They're the folks who told us that a canon ball will fall from a tower faster than a bb because it's heavier.

so, are we beginning to circle around the issue of eternal life, vs. the one life on urth?

the muslims like to circle around the black rock over there in mecca?

the hebrews and greek allies fought because of differences?

but here we are Americans w/Russians onward?

i mean, we both use the international space station?

We've already demonstrated why this argument is fallacious.

So your hypothesis about Satan ruling on Earth. Should that be part of the Science Curriculum?

What good reason is there to assume any supernatural being?

Why assume god(s) and not pixies?

there's more potential payoffs in assuming gods, vs. something less?

i mean, if we're going to assume "something" then let's go for the gold?

well, silver is good. it'll be the lesser of the two, and it'll buy meals at the store.

now, if pixies want to challenge the gods, and offer more, then let's hear their argument?

if the marketeers who represent and support the pixies, and can offer a good payoff, then why not?

right now, we're looking for a leader, down here on the urth, where we eat, work, and pay taxes. what next?

How about we don't assume anything, and base our beliefs on good evidence?

if we're willing to first assume a god, then that gives us a ladder to climb up out of the hole in the ground.

usually, i've depended upon monetary theorists, and macro economists to supply the ladder.

but, probably god could do the job just as well. maybe better. i don't know. [/quote]

What good reason is there to assume any supernatural being?

Why assume god(s) and not pixies?[/quote]

there's more potential payoffs in assuming gods, vs. something less?

i mean, if we're going to assume "something" then let's go for the gold?

well, silver is good. it'll be the lesser of the two, and it'll buy meals at the store.

now, if pixies want to challenge the gods, and offer more, then let's hear their argument?

if the marketeers who represent and support the pixies, and can offer a good payoff, then why not?

right now, we're looking for a leader, down here on the urth, where we eat, work, and pay taxes. what next?
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How about we don't assume anything, and base our beliefs on good evidence?[/quote]

oh my god! the idea is quite worthy.

but, it'd be an advance in the system?

i depend upon the macro economists.

are they all wrong? if so, then what?

whose got a better theory?

it's all theory, surely you know?

That would be far too rational and reasonable for some folks. Too much reality is a bad thing it seems.

i don't think fairness, rational & reasonable has a role in this world at this point in time?

we can't have too much reality.

but somebody has to pay taxes.

This world appears to be run by Lunatics who have taken control of the Asylum.

How about I start campaigning for reincarnation to be taught in our schools? How about life according to Buddha? Or the tenets of Shintoism? I am sure most of the existing Amerindian nations have some thoughts on the mystery of creation. Out of fairness, their beliefs must be represented in the schools if any are.

How are the teachings you happen to believe in, any more worthy of representation in the school than the beliefs of any other people? Because you believe yours to be true? HMMMM, that must be why we have that separation of church and state thing/

Why should any religious teachings replace the discoveries of science in the schools?