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I am not a scientist--therefore I posted definitions from people who are. That is not an uncommon practice to cite scientists on science. Not sure why you think that I think that humanity is irrelevant--human life is created in the image of God and is sacred and morally responsible.

Maybe you want to start your own thread on this different topic ...

I'm sure it is irrelevant to your theories but it is not to science as I quoted scientists using it. Are your credentials large enough to cite yourself?

Additionally DNA studies are showing evidence of the likelihood of a single source for humans.
Here’s the Cliffs Notes version: According to the authors all our mitochondria came from a very small population about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, perhaps as small as a population size of two, though later in the paper they qualify that number. According to Stoeckle and Thaler, the same timeframe is true for 90 percent of animal species. No wonder so many people in the theistic evolution/creation dispute got irritated or excited. Theistic evolutionists saw it as an occasion for fanning the flames of anti-evolutionary sentiment. Young earth creationists saw it as evidence for the ark.

https://evolutionnews.org/2018/12/does-barcoding-dna-reveal-a-single-human-pair/

I'm citing an evolutionary site so you don't choke on this possibility.

Maybe it is just semantics, but I would not agree that all religious arguments start from an assumption of authority. Many indeed do.... but.... In my own case, my “religious” conviction stems from the “recognition” of Jesus’ authority. From my viewpoint, there is no assumption.

Yet, YMMV

Those who believe in a higher power do better in terms of morality, gluttony, addiction, etc?

... I am pointing to the nature of the bible, its source material, how it came to be put together, its problems, contradictions, etc...

sure they do...

don't you remember the Salem witch hunts ?

and just recently we had a CF christian post about "sugar is the devil "

According to the authors all our mitochondria came from a very small population about 100,000 to 200,000 years ago, perhaps as small as a population size of two, though later in the paper they qualify that number. According to Stoeckle and Thaler, the same timeframe is true for 90 percent of animal species. No wonder so many people in the theistic evolution/creation dispute got irritated or excited. Theistic evolutionists saw it as an occasion for fanning the flames of anti-evolutionary sentiment. Young earth creationists saw it as evidence for the ark[/i].

https://evolutionnews.org/2018/12/does-barcoding-dna-reveal-a-single-human-pair/

I'm citing an evolutionary site so you don't choke on this possibility.

You are a total maroon!

The "evolutionary site" you quoted is nothing but a mouthpiece for the Discovery Institute, a group of wackdoodle creationists who seek to discredit science. It has no scientific pedigree.

Now...most modern humans ARE descnded from a small group of humans but ALSO from a lot of other humans alive at the time.) It's just like 10% of all modern Asians being descendents of Genghis Kahn. But they too have a lot of other ancestors.) There were only a small group alive 100,000 to 200,000 years ago.

That's irrelevant for the Adam and Eve myth. And as far as Noah's Ark is concerned, that myth supposedly took place long after 100,000 years ago.

I would appreciate it if you didn't waste my time by posting things you don't understand. Go back to high school and get some education. Post something from a peer reviewed journal and I'll pay attention to it. Otherwise, bye.

Asserting "God is infinite" does not make it true.

There was a genetic bottleneck, possibly two, during the last ice age where we as a species nearly went extinct.

Let me help you out here. The first "bottleneck" happened at creation. The second "bottleneck" happened about 1,656 years later.

Let me help you out here. The first "bottleneck" happened at creation. The second "bottleneck" happened about 1,656 years later.

Your evidence for this.....being?

I come from a long line of Roman Catholics, when we opened an old family chest past from generation to generation in Europe,

we found a piece of wood wrapped in an old scribed note saying it was a genuine remnant relic of the cross at Golgotha,

is there anyway to verify its authenticity?... btw; Also inside was a old map with X marking the spot where buried treasure lay.....,
but that's for another time.

now on the subject of holy water, can you effectively use such to protect oneself from the effects of Black Plague that God
afflicts the errant wicked with?

The local priest does not know, and my prayers go unanswered, the cF is last resort.

I did a time line in the Bible. The flood happened 1, 656 years after creation. This addresses both.

From your posts I know you are not serious. But if you ever got serious you could read about genetic load and how fast mutations accumulate. Way too fast for a beneficial mutation to be established in a population. I learned this from a guy who has real scientific credentials: Dr. John Sanford. "Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome"

This statement starts with a false assumption making the conclusion illogical, in and of its"closed set" Bertrand Russell stuff
Denying God does not make Him less than infinite. You appeal to nothingness for everything including conscienceness. That is totally illogical.

I did a time line in the Bible. The flood happened 1, 656 years after creation. This addresses both.

From your posts I know you are not serious. But if you ever got serious you could read about genetic load and how fast mutations accumulate. Way too fast for a beneficial mutation to be established in a population. I learned this from a guy who has real scientific credentials: Dr. John Sanford. "Genetic Entropy and the Mystery of the Genome"

Entropy, whether used in genetics,or its more correct place as the 3rd. law of Thermodynamics. simply suggests a progression towards a more disorganized state. Genetic systems are 3 order Hopf bifurcations, that exist in a basis of attraction. When acted on by some perturbation that knocks them out of that they will reorganize to another basis of attraction. In the bible world the iteration rate is much shorter than the iteration rate on quartz timepiece, thus the possibility of bifurcations in the system. Or proceed to catastrophic states as Thom describes, 5th and 7th order states. This is the system Sanford describes. The "black hole" here is assuming one state is "better" than another.