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Nothing like a church to usurp the "rule of law" when it comes to illegal migration - and then preach about following it! http://e.startribune.com/Olive/ODN/StarTribune/Default.aspx
My home is the "sanctuary residence" for my firearms.
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"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
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That's my church. They didn't ask me.
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Your link shows nothing pertaining to your post.
What is the ELCA?
Never mind I found it. Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." **Edmund Burke**
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." **Benjamin Franklin**
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This may help clarify the OP’s vague post. https://www.worldreligionnews.com/religion-news/elca-americas-first-sanctuary-church-bodyPLEDGE TO HELP IMMIGRANTS Close to 3.5 million Christians, represented by the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), have voted to become America’s first “sanctuary church body.” The vote took place last Wednesday and pledges more than just giving shelter to undocumented immigrants. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America will: Answer to deportations, raids, as well as the criminalization of refugees and immigrants Battle cases of deportation on an individual basis, lift up immigrants’ voices and push for the end of detentions on a massive level Take action to extend hospitality to communities of immigrants as well as individual immigrants. The ELCA calls the measure a memorial and has said some of the organizations and churches under the ELCA belt are already seeing these actions are carried out. A committee has been set up by the church to conduct a study on what a sanctuary church body means. They plan to report their findings in 2022. There are more than 9,000 congregations managed by the ELCA. This has prompted the ELCA to come up with resources and guidelines in order for these congregations to explore and develop sanctuary ministries.
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That's my church. They didn't ask me. That should be the church you used to go to.
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That's an easy fix , revoke their tax exempt status.
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They wanna play politics, we need to revoke their tax-free church status. It's really just that simple.
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Why would a church want to be a sanctuary for some of the most dangerous foreigners, treacherous crooks, pedophiles and murderers? Why don't they help Americans?
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That's an easy fix , revoke their tax exempt status.
Mike Bing-phuqqing-o All of them for that matter.....
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They’re the Lutheran branch of the mainline and mainline is pinko these days. UMC, Episcopal, PCUSA, ELCA, RCA are all losing members cuz Gospel of Jesus Christ is not just ignored but downplayed and garbage like this “social gospel” of diversity inclusion & equity being crammed down everyone’s throats.
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Let them be taxed like every other entity, not a single one should be exempt. Have a look at the real estate owned by some of these religions colleges.
If church wasn’t a business, there wouldn’t be a college degree available on how to manage one.
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That's an easy fix , revoke their tax exempt status.
I’m not in favor of allowing government to blackmail or dictate church policy on anything, even when they’re misguided like this. If you open that can of worms then the next time a dem gets in office they’ll do the same to churches that preach against abortion or refuse to perform gay “weddings”. I don’t want government controlling anything a church teaches.
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Our former church in Scottsdale, AZ was ELCA and, at the same time, very Scriptural and quite excellent with regard to fundamental Christian values - and this excellence does occur in some Lutheran churches in the ELCA, Not at all the case with some others in ELCA. The ELCA has become an amorphous entity enabling all sorts of odd and ludicrous pretenders of Lutheranism - from the excellent to the ridiculous. As a supposedly "evangelical" Christian organization, the ELCA should be ashamed of its weak and misguiding fiber. The value is in the local congregation - not the national organization.
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As a supposedly "evangelical" Christian organization, the ELCA should be ashamed of its weak and misguiding fiber. The value is in the local congregation - not the national organization. I completely agree with everything here with a qualifier on the second sentence. You’re absolutely right that local congregations matter BUT a local congregation demonstrates its allegiance to Scripture by abandoning an unfaithful denomination.
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Why would a church want to be a sanctuary for some of the most dangerous foreigners, treacherous crooks, pedophiles and murderers? Why don't they help Americans? ^^^^ This!!
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That's what happens when any jackass that comes along can found a "church".
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That's an easy fix , revoke their tax exempt status.
Mike Exactly. That's what I was going to say.
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Why would a church want to be a sanctuary for some of the most dangerous foreigners, treacherous crooks, pedophiles and murderers? Why don't they help Americans? This might be shocking to you, but Jesus wasn't an American, and God doesn't recognize the US Border.
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Why would a church want to be a sanctuary for some of the most dangerous foreigners, treacherous crooks, pedophiles and murderers? Why don't they help Americans? This might be shocking to you, but Jesus wasn't an American, and God doesn't recognize the US Border. Jesus was also NOT a Ragheaded Muslim like you, and its not God's job to recognize the US border... its up to the American People to Recognize the US border and to protect it and to protect themselves from people crossing it, at America's detriment.... how about the US just walking into any country in the Middle East, or even better.. walk into every nation in the Middle East and take what the hell we want to take from it, and change their laws to fit our needs....with the excuse... God Doesn't Recognize ANY Borders.... will that work for ya GooseSchitt?
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