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Originally Posted by UPhiker
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The left has been out to kill the NRA for years. So, a few carefully leaked stories, alittle internal dissension cause by new board members, a little butthurt over a worthless stock accessory, and WE do it for them.

Yep, sounds about right.

Do some research on what the duties are of a BoD and get back with us. Here's a hint--it's not to be the public face of an organization and go around shaking hands because you're famous.



How do you think lobbying is done? THAT is literally how it is done.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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The left has been out to kill the NRA for years. So, a few carefully leaked stories, alittle internal dissension cause by new board members, a little butthurt over a worthless stock accessory, and WE do it for them.

Yep, sounds about right.

Do some research on what the duties are of a BoD and get back with us. Here's a hint--it's not to be the public face of an organization and go around shaking hands because you're famous.



How do you think lobbying is done? THAT is literally how it is done.

Dumbfuqk, that's not the primary duty of a BoD. Grow a few brain cells and get back to us.

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Some of you who believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy can’t even see this schit. First they tried to tie the NRA to the Russian collusion thing. Then New York got after them. Then attention whore Ollie North started raising Cain. Then the leaks, likely straight from the New York AG’s Office started hitting the air. And all of you, are falling right for it.

Wayne ain’t blameless, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.

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This has been needed for years and with the adminestration, we have in DC there will probably not be a better time for this to happen..

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Some of you who believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy can’t even see this schit. First they tried to tie the NRA to the Russian collusion thing. Then New York got after them. Then attention whore Ollie North started raising Cain. Then the leaks, likely straight from the New York AG’s Office started hitting the air. And all of you, are falling right for it.

Wayne ain’t blameless, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.


It's a good attack plan on the part of the libs. Piss off the members by exposing Waynes and the NRAs spending habits with their hard earned money. I don't want to see my money going towards the purchase of a Texas mansion that I won't be allowed to step foot in and neither do the majority of members.



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Originally Posted by Pat85
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Some of you who believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy can’t even see this schit. First they tried to tie the NRA to the Russian collusion thing. Then New York got after them. Then attention whore Ollie North started raising Cain. Then the leaks, likely straight from the New York AG’s Office started hitting the air. And all of you, are falling right for it.

Wayne ain’t blameless, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.


It's a good attack plan on the part of the libs. Piss off the members by exposing Waynes and the NRAs spending habits with their hard earned money. I don't want to see my money going towards the purchase of a Texas mansion that I won't be allowed to step foot in and neither do the majority of members.


It ain’t just that. Look LaPierre can’t step down because New York is after him civilly and criminally. Step down and his legal fees aren’t covered, plus he loses any political clout he has. Same for the BOD at the NRA. Those that quit lose their indemnity for legal fees and New York is actively going after them both civilly and criminally.

All these leaks about practices that may or may not going on and are undoubtedly exaggerated are a tactic to raise the heat on the BOD members and others to break ranks. Once they quit, then New York is going to go after them heavily. Then, under the pressure of bankrupting legal fees and/or criminal prosecution, someone is going to break and turn over on the NRA and “compose” a litany of crimes and misdeeds. Once that happens, then not only are the going to hammer the NRA financially, they are going to try to send LaPierre and some of the BOD to jail. Then, of course, the power of the NRA will be broken and no one with any sense will ever want to get involved with it again.

That’s the plan. It’s the same plan that they tried with Trump and the Mueller investigation. It’s the same plan they tried with the Mafia and other organized crime organizations. Attack it on all fronts, create dissension, go after individual members and bankrupt them or jail them, until they turn over on others and the organization as a whole, and then kill it by making it so that everyone knows that getting involved with it means having your life turned upside down.

It’s lawfare. It’s life in the new Soviet Socialist Republic of America.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
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Some of you who believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy can’t even see this schit. First they tried to tie the NRA to the Russian collusion thing. Then New York got after them. Then attention whore Ollie North started raising Cain. Then the leaks, likely straight from the New York AG’s Office started hitting the air. And all of you, are falling right for it.

Wayne ain’t blameless, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.


It's a good attack plan on the part of the libs. Piss off the members by exposing Waynes and the NRAs spending habits with their hard earned money. I don't want to see my money going towards the purchase of a Texas mansion that I won't be allowed to step foot in and neither do the majority of members.


It ain’t just that. Look LaPierre can’t step down because New York is after him civilly and criminally. Step down and his legal fees aren’t covered, plus he loses any political clout he has. Same for the BOD at the NRA. Those that quit lose their indemnity for legal fees and New York is actively going after them both civilly and criminally.

All these leaks about practices that may or may not going on and are undoubtedly exaggerated are a tactic to raise the heat on the BOD members and others to break ranks. Once they quit, then New York is going to go after them heavily. Then, under the pressure of bankrupting legal fees and/or criminal prosecution, someone is going to break and turn over on the NRA and “compose” a litany of crimes and misdeeds. Once that happens, then not only are the going to hammer the NRA financially, they are going to try to send LaPierre and some of the BOD to jail. Then, of course, the power of the NRA will be broken and no one with any sense will ever want to get involved with it again.

That’s the plan. It’s the same plan that they tried with Trump and the Mueller investigation. It’s the same plan they tried with the Mafia and other organized crime organizations. Attack it on all fronts, create dissension, go after individual members and bankrupt them or jail them, until they turn over on others and the organization as a whole, and then kill it by making it so that everyone knows that getting involved with it means having your life turned upside down.

It’s lawfare. It’s life in the new Soviet Socialist Republic of America.




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And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

Except most CEOs arent using donated moneys as they stab the membership in the back,
Screw WLP he has earned whatever he gets

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Originally Posted by JoeBob
And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

Don’t try to reason with common sense. It goes way over a bunch of heads. They are looking for a reason not to send any money to the NRA. If they ever have. Hasbeen


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.
Does the NRA still have the video up supporting Red Flag Laws?

What if all that money that does no good were suddenly transferred to an organization that actually stands up for gun owner's rights, such as GOA?

If the NRA would stop supporting gun control and having anti-gun folks at the helm, they would get more support.

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And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

Except most CEOs arent using donated moneys as they stab the membership in the back,
Screw WLP let NY ruin him he has earned it


Okay, so be it, but the NRA is done. Oh, and don’t think the political prosecutions are over. Hell, they are just getting started. Any gun organization that even begins to start showing some of the political clout of the NRA will quickly find itself target by one of the local Soviet committees...I mean state governments.

Lots of you are too busy cheering the demise of Wayne and the NRA because you are butthurt over bump stocks or some other stupid schit, but this represents the end of gun owners as an organized and recognized political force in this country. We’ll still have power, but the only place it will be exercised is at the voting booth. The power to influence, shape legislation, kill it before it gets going...that’s all pretty much over with this mess if they are successful.



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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
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And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.
Does the NRA still have the video up supporting Red Flag Laws?

What if all that money that does no good were suddenly transferred to an organization that actually stands up for gun owner's rights, such as GOA?

If the NRA would stop supporting gun control and having anti-gun folks at the helm, they would get more support.


Don’t worry, GOA will get it’s turn in the barrel as soon as they are done with the NRA.

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And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

Except most CEOs arent using donated moneys as they stab the membership in the back,
Screw WLP let NY ruin him he has earned it


Okay, so be it, but the NRA is done. Oh, and don’t think the political prosecutions are over. Hell, they are just getting started. Any gun organization that even begins to start showing some of the political clout of the NRA will quickly find itself target by one of the local Soviet committees...I mean state governments.

Lots of you are too busy cheering the demise of Wayne and the NRA because you are butthurt over bump stocks or some other stupid schit, but this represents the end of gun owners as an organized and recognized political force in this country. We’ll still have power, but the only place it will be exercised is at the voting booth. The power to influence, shale legislation, kill it before it gets going...that’s all pretty much over with this mess if they are successful.



Your assuming things that are not so.
I don't think gun owners want the NRA destroyed we want them to stand frim on our 2nd Amendment rights.
Good honest firearm advocacy groups will be just like the good gunshops when a large retailer comes to town, they do just fine.
If WLP has been doing stupid chit with members money let him use his own to get out of the trouble he has created for himself. why should the membership pay?

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They will not get another nickel of my money until things get cleaned up over there. For now, it's GOA ALL THE WAY.


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Originally Posted by JoeBob
Originally Posted by Pat85
Originally Posted by JoeBob
Some of you who believe EVERYTHING is a conspiracy can’t even see this schit. First they tried to tie the NRA to the Russian collusion thing. Then New York got after them. Then attention whore Ollie North started raising Cain. Then the leaks, likely straight from the New York AG’s Office started hitting the air. And all of you, are falling right for it.

Wayne ain’t blameless, but there is a lot more to this than meets the eye.


It's a good attack plan on the part of the libs. Piss off the members by exposing Waynes and the NRAs spending habits with their hard earned money. I don't want to see my money going towards the purchase of a Texas mansion that I won't be allowed to step foot in and neither do the majority of members.


It ain’t just that. Look LaPierre can’t step down because New York is after him civilly and criminally. Step down and his legal fees aren’t covered, plus he loses any political clout he has. Same for the BOD at the NRA. Those that quit lose their indemnity for legal fees and New York is actively going after them both civilly and criminally.

All these leaks about practices that may or may not going on and are undoubtedly exaggerated are a tactic to raise the heat on the BOD members and others to break ranks. Once they quit, then New York is going to go after them heavily. Then, under the pressure of bankrupting legal fees and/or criminal prosecution, someone is going to break and turn over on the NRA and “compose” a litany of crimes and misdeeds. Once that happens, then not only are the going to hammer the NRA financially, they are going to try to send LaPierre and some of the BOD to jail. Then, of course, the power of the NRA will be broken and no one with any sense will ever want to get involved with it again.

That’s the plan. It’s the same plan that they tried with Trump and the Mueller investigation. It’s the same plan they tried with the Mafia and other organized crime organizations. Attack it on all fronts, create dissension, go after individual members and bankrupt them or jail them, until they turn over on others and the organization as a whole, and then kill it by making it so that everyone knows that getting involved with it means having your life turned upside down.

It’s lawfare. It’s life in the new Soviet Socialist Republic of America.


Not only "can" WLP step down, he should. Just because he is being attacked legally is no excuse to continue his drag on the NRA. Far better having him in the news as the compromised former VP versus the current. If he truly did bad stuff and is convicted having him still in power would be foolish on our parts and extremely selfish on his part. Staying just for the legal funding is bullshit.


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Lots of you are too busy cheering the demise of Wayne and the NRA because you are butthurt over bump stocks or some other stupid schit,




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And none of this is to say that LaPierre hasn’t done bad stuff...unethical, maybe even technically illegal. But he really isn’t doing anything that every CEO of these nonprofits and foundations are doing. And frankly, money wise, the NRA is small potatoes compared to many of them. But the reasons it and LaPierre are being targeted have nothing to do with alleged misdeeds, they are purely political.

Money has never been the reason the NRA was powerful. It really doesn’t have that much. A guy like Bloomberg could write a check for several years of NRA operating expenses and never miss it at all.

Except most CEOs arent using donated moneys as they stab the membership in the back,
Screw WLP let NY ruin him he has earned it


Okay, so be it, but the NRA is done. Oh, and don’t think the political prosecutions are over. Hell, they are just getting started. Any gun organization that even begins to start showing some of the political clout of the NRA will quickly find itself target by one of the local Soviet committees...I mean state governments.

Lots of you are too busy cheering the demise of Wayne and the NRA because you are butthurt over bump stocks or some other stupid schit, but this represents the end of gun owners as an organized and recognized political force in this country. We’ll still have power, but the only place it will be exercised is at the voting booth. The power to influence, shale legislation, kill it before it gets going...that’s all pretty much over with this mess if they are successful.



Your assuming things that are not so.
I don't think gun owners want the NRA destroyed we want them to stand frim on our 2nd Amendment rights.
Good honest firearm advocacy groups will be just like the good gunshops when a large retailer comes to town, they do just fine.
If WLP has been doing stupid chit with members money let him use his own to get out of the trouble he has created for himself. why should the membership pay?



YOU DON’T UNDERSTAND. The rules have changed.

New York is treating the NRA like the mafia. They will do it with any gun organization. What you or any other gun owner “wants” is immaterial. This is what the communists are going to do to you.

You want an example of what state governments can do to industries and organizations with VASTLY more money and clout than the NRA? Look at the tobacco industry. Sixty years ago nearly half of all Americans smoked. In today’s dollars sales worldwide were probably in the trillions. Now, through a combination of show prosecutions and state investigations, lawsuits, and regulatory hostility, I read where Phillip Morris is looking to get out of the cigarette business altogether.

That’s part of the model. This New York stuff is just the beginning. Expect California to start the same stuff. Imagine the NRA and GOA having to go through this simultaneously in four or five states that were coordinating their efforts for maximum inconvenience and expense.

This is the future is the USSA.

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