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But that isn’t random and that isn’t letting nature do it. That is designed from the start by an intelligent being.

PS Evolution doesn't even propose randomness as the cause of speciation. Variability (along a multiplicity of dimension) is built into reproduction, and environmental pressures then act on that variability in very definite directions.

Not really design. Just being God. He's able to bring about his will without himself designing anything. Nature handles the design element. It's a mystery.

Portraying God as a designer of living creatures is actually a diminishment of his divinity, as I see it. He doesn't need to design to bring about his will.

You’re tying yourself in knots.

Christians are quick to conveniently adopt victim status, if they don't feel persecuted they don't feel like a Christian.

btw: who exactly are the 'real' christians here is up for serious debate.

so far, a couple delusional clowns who think they have a Holy Spirit - seeing themselves as being here to guide people,
a few more who contradict their own Bible,
and/or desperately jumping to science to 'prove' their faith.

Natural evolution is not a matter of 'random chance' - what works survives, what doesn't falls by the waste-side....the world is littered with the remains of species that failed to adapt.

Bad design by God, or designed to fail.

but why would a God do that ..you know, produce so many lemons?





but God designed the divinely designated designer/developer called nature, yes/no?

and he did so to have nature produce things precisely the way he wanted them...yes/no?

Were Neanderthals mentioned in the Bible?

Strange that....given Omniscience and Omnipotence. Maybe one of our theists can explain.

Not to mention;

Homo habilis.
Homo erectus.
Homo floresiensis.
Homo neanderthalensis.
Homo heidelbergensis.
Homo rudolfensis.

Of course its a matter of chance and said chance is random. The fact that what allegedly works survives and what doesn't fails is of course a tautology. It explains nothing. But even this tautology does not deny random chance. It is central to Neo-Darwinism.

That some species have gone extinct and some still do go extinct is not a teutology.

IF a huge asteroid hadn’t struck the Earth 60 million years ago, dinosaurs might still rule the Earth,

was it by chance that happened.. or was it part of Gods plan all along?

faith.. or just chance odds of such happening?

did God steer the Ark to its resting place,.. or did it drift and come to rest purely by chance?

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when are christians going to 'pick and stick' with their faith?
I notice with christians that faith can comprise of conflicting beliefs from one person to another,
so the 'truth' varies...

safe to say their God picked a really dumb flock lot to glorify Him.

but it is easier for a King to rule over his subjects when they are that way.

According to Young Earth creationists, there was no 60 million years ago. Apparently dinosaurs were created in the Garden of Eden as gentle herbivores.

if you banked on the wide and varied forms of faith you get from the broad church of competing self-interest christians,

you'd soon be bankrupt.

its a personal relationship with God they say ,
yet they have no problem deriding and condemning those [who they deem] as not understanding God in the 'superior' way they do.
if christians are not busy arguing with atheists or agnostics, they are busy arguing and being divisive among themselves, like they
have been doing for the past 2000 years and unlikely to change anytime soon.

Find me the true christian that puts his ego aside and humbles himself in the service and glory of God.

good luck...

Creationists have built a scale model of the Ark in Kentucky, ..but this one has a concrete floor and has suffered flood damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQxmQZqVxwA
iTs got animals including some dinosaurs, they claim up to 85 types of Dinos were aboard, so I don't think they will ever
get around to modelling up ALL of the many more currently known dinosaurs and the ones that continue to be discovered
...and then try and fit two of each aboard.

heres one creationists never knew about;

https://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/animals/stories/giant-6-foot-8-penguin-discovered-in-antarctica

I posted about what the Bible says about the Pangaea earth. When you make statements like this about the Bible, along with all your other alleged discrepancies, its obvious that you have a very limited knowledge of it, and don't understand the most basic rules of Bible interpretation--such as context--comparing scriptures to get a complete picture rather than isolating aspects that were never intended to stand in isolation or be considered the whole--or maybe just a good does of common sense.

The inherent capabilities in the natural processes were specifically designed to be that way--they could not randomly assume that intelligence for themselves nor provide the conducive environment. There simply is no other logical option option to intelligent design and never will be.

God never indicated that nature in the fallen world would be perfect, in fact quite the opposite is stated. However the processes of nature which bring forth both life and death still follow the laws of nature. When natural laws are contravened we have a phenomena or a miracle if you will, but both miracles and laws of nature are by design and operate within a finely tuned and maintained universe. We know this by fact and by faith-- as those two walk hand in hand with the evidence and with the inscrutability of divinity on some points.

Of course, it’s random chance. The fact that some random chances result in organisms more suited to survival than others is, indeed the entire theory.