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Originally Posted by rimfire
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Once Noah got the Ark built how long did it take him to go to N.America,S,America,Australia,etc,etc and collect 2 of every animal. Then he had to have food for all of them and once the flood was over he had to get the animals back to their proper place. Did he have help from Santa ?


Ever here of Pangea? Prior to the Flood there was one land mass. The super continent broke during the Flood. Some computer models showed they moved a several meters per second.

Dinosaurs were roaming the earth then,no humans


They were created on day six along with humans. So, yes, humans were there.


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I've read that there is far more evidence to prove creation than evolution.



You read it in Creationist literature. It's not science.

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Evolution was pushed by athiests, Marxists, and Communists for over 100 years.


It's not pushed by anyone. It has stood both scrutiny and attack for 150 years.

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Life was created.


Not according to the evidence.



Creationist literature is most likely more scientific than secular literature. At least they don't have change their discoveries. You challenge Jason Lisle's in the sun? You don't believe Henry Morris use of hydraulics is used by evolutionists?

The evidence for creation is at least the DNA and RNA molecules. Because your blind faith is so strong you can not see facts.


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And the obvious question; how did the Kangaroos make their way from the Ark in the middle east to Australia where they settled?


During the ice age the ocean was much lower than now. They migrated there.



Noah lived during the last ice age? kangaroos lived in the Middle East without leaving a single clue, then decided to move to Australia after the flood? What about Koalas? Did they migrate to Australia?


You certainly need to read more. Noah lived 600 years prior to the Flood. He lived another 350 years after the Flood. The ice age may have started by the time he died.

The animals migrated away from the Middle East and populated the world. Some of huge mats of vegetation, some walked on the land that is now underwater.


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Correct. It would be. That's not what I believe. As a pro bowler is capable of releasing the ball in such a way as to intend a strike, and, once released, be sure that he threw a strike. How much more so can God set the universe in motion in such a way as to be sure of all the outcomes that result, in accordance with his will.


Then creation isn’t random, it’s designed. So why do you argue against intelligent design?
Because God had nothing whatever to do with the design of living creatures. He delegated that job to nature, as it says in Genesis. And this makes sense when you look at how living creatures are put together. Not only is there no evidence of an intelligent designer, but there's lots of evidence of stupid design, where things are just good enough to work, but no better.

God did no micromanaging of the process, but created a process by which his desired outcome (with respect to living creatures) would eventually come about. He knew how it would unfold, but didn't make it do so by the process that it did. That he left to nature, for whatever reason he chose to do so.


You are letting you bias influence you. Read God's Word in the First chapter and you will not find anything like what you posted. At the end of everything He declared everything "Very good." Everything we see today is a mutated degeneration of the original creation.


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
PS Evolution doesn't even propose randomness as the cause of speciation. Variability (along a multiplicity of dimension) is built into reproduction, and environmental pressures then act on that variability in very definite directions.


You didn't read the same books I read. Evolution is based on randomness, beginning with random environmental happenings.


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...the world is littered with the remains of species that failed to adapt.


Bad design by God, or designed to fail.

but why would a God do that ..you know, produce so many lemons?



Strange that....given Omniscience and Omnipotence. Maybe one of our theists can explain.


Yes. He doesn't know what he's posting about. He's neither evolutionist or creationist.


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Random -- ness is in all systems. Thats why its called random, don't know when its going to pop up. anything is possible, somethings are more probable. To image some "force from a far" is manipulating it behind the scenes, puts it into the comic book group.

Humans are not the "crown of creation". What is? The game hasn't played out yet.


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Were Neanderthals mentioned in the Bible?


Not to mention;

Homo habilis.
Homo erectus.
Homo floresiensis.
Homo neanderthalensis.
Homo heidelbergensis.
Homo rudolfensis.


I am convinced Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob were Neanderthals. Their genes produced Cro-Magnon and every other ethic group who ever lived.


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Neanderthals aren’t even really a different species. They could breed with us and if you cleaned one up and put him in modern clothes, you wouldn’t think anything about seeing him walk down the street.

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Originally Posted by Ringman

You are letting you bias influence you. Read God's Word in the First chapter and you will not find anything like what you posted. At the end of everything He declared everything "Very good." Everything we see today is a mutated degeneration of the original creation.

When you’re prescient, declaring as good the outcome of what you set into motion isn’t difficult. Just like the pro bowler knows when he releases the ball in such a way as to make a strike.

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Originally Posted by Ringman
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PS Evolution doesn't even propose randomness as the cause of speciation. Variability (along a multiplicity of dimension) is built into reproduction, and environmental pressures then act on that variability in very definite directions.


You didn't read the same books I read.


That is for sure!


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Originally Posted by Ringman
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PS Evolution doesn't even propose randomness as the cause of speciation. Variability (along a multiplicity of dimension) is built into reproduction, and environmental pressures then act on that variability in very definite directions.


You didn't read the same books I read. Evolution is based on randomness, beginning with random environmental happenings.

When Creationists suggest that evolution proposes a random process by which species come into existence, what they typically mean is that it’s like exploding a factory and having a 747 Jetliner assemble itself among the wreckage. Evolution isn’t random, though, because it’s a process of adaptation to specific pressures applied by the environment. Adaptation is possible due to a certain degree of heritable variability in reproduction. To suggest that this makes it random is absurd.

What you’re proposing is that the absence of intelligent design is de facto random.

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Don't know what Trump has to do with evolution, maybe it's that the thing on top of his head seems to have evolved quite a bit in the last few years.

When I learned evolution it had nothing to do with randomness. That would be a cause of mutation. Evolution as I learned it had to do with what happens when a mutation arrives, not what caused it, be it a random cosmic ray or a deity.


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Ringman, are you for real, or do you just like playing make-up on the internet?


No, he really is that stupid.


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Originally Posted by DBT


You read it in Creationist literature. It's not science.


Neither is science.


We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?

Immersing oneself in progressive lieberalism is no different than bathing in the sewage of Hell.
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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Ringman

You are letting you bias influence you. Read God's Word in the First chapter and you will not find anything like what you posted. At the end of everything He declared everything "Very good." Everything we see today is a mutated degeneration of the original creation.

When you’re prescient, declaring as good the outcome of what you set into motion isn’t difficult. Just like the pro bowler knows when he releases the ball in such a way as to make a strike.


You were brain washed somewhere along the way with some really screwy ideas. You try to use an Omnipotent God Who, according to His Word, spoke and it was finished, would use the haphazard random system
of evolution over billions of years doesn't comport with His Word Where He tells us at the consummation of all things He is going to restore everything to its original condition. Does that mean more death and random extinction? Give up on your foolishness. Endorse atheistic evolution or Special Creation. Like Joshua said, "Choose today whom you will serve. As for me and my house we will serve the Lord."


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Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
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PS Evolution doesn't even propose randomness as the cause of speciation. Variability (along a multiplicity of dimension) is built into reproduction, and environmental pressures then act on that variability in very definite directions.


You didn't read the same books I read. Evolution is based on randomness, beginning with random environmental happenings.

When Creationists suggest that evolution proposes a random process by which species come into existence, what they typically mean is that it’s like exploding a factory and having a 747 Jetliner assemble itself among the wreckage. Evolution isn’t random, though, because it’s a process of adaptation to specific pressures applied by the environment. Adaptation is possible due to a certain degree of heritable variability in reproduction. To suggest that this makes it random is absurd.

What you’re proposing is that the absence of intelligent design is de facto random.


Give it up!


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