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Does anyone out there have some good data for 60gr./75gr.bullets for 99EG as mine does'nt shoot the 85/87/100gr. in the one in fourteen twist very well. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

Just a suggestion but have you checked the crown on your barrel? This may explain why the 87's are not shooting well.

Best to ya .. BP...

what bullets are you using?

87 Speers work well for me in all of them.

On the same line does Anybody have an opinion on what seems to be the most accurate factory load for the 300? Is there a difference in the accuracy of the 150 grain or 180 grain bullet?

CR

Forks........

Below are the loads I found in one of my old reloading books (circa 1970) for the .250/3000 Savage. There was no mention in the reloading manual of any problems with the 100 grain and the 117 grain bullets in their test rifle which had a 1:14 twist barrel.

These loads may NOT be safe in your rifle. Reduce these maximum loads by 10% for use as starting loads. DO NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM LISTED LOADS BELOW:
CARTRIDGE SPECIFICATION:
Bullet diameter: .257�
Maximum case length: 1.912�
Trim-to-length: 1.902�
Maximum Overall length with bullet: 2.515
Primer size: Large rifle

TEST COMPONENTS:
Remington cases
Remington 9� primers

TEST SPECIFICATION:
Firearm used: Custom Mauser 98
Barrel length: 24�
Twist: 1 � 14�
Groove diameter: .257�


75 GRAIN BULLET
IMR3031 � Maximum load = 36.0 grains = 3472 feet/per/second
IMR4895 � Maximum load = 37.0 grains = 3300 fps
IMR4064 � Maximum load = 38.0*grains= 3322 fps
IMR4320 � Maximum load = 39.0 grains = 3427 fps

* = compressed load
Accuracy load: IMR4320 powder, 35.0 grains = 2976 fps


87 GRAIN BULLET
IMR3031 � Maximum load = 35.0 grains = 3247 fps
IMR4895 � Maximum load = 36.5 grains = 3194 fps
IMR4064 � Maximum load = 37.0*grains= 3205 fps
IMR4320 � Maximum load = 38.0 grains = 3236 fps

* = compressed load
Accuracy load = IMR4064, 33.0 grains = 2816 fps
Factory duplication load = IMR3031, 32.5 grains = 3030 fps


100 GRAIN BULLET
IMR3031 � Maximum load = 33.0 grains = 3010 fps
IMR4895 - � � = 35.5 grains = 3000 fps
IMR4064 - � � = 35.5 grains = 3025 fps
IMR4320 - � � = 37.0 grains = 3113 fps

Accuracy load: IMR3031, 31.0 grains = 2801 fps
Factory duplication load = IMR3031, 31.2 grains = 2816 fps


117 GRAIN BULLET
IMR3031 � Maximum Load = 31.0 grains = 2672 fps
IMR4895 - � � = 33.5 grains = 2750 fps
IMR4064 - � � = 33.5 grains = 2712 fps
IMR4320 - � � = 35.0 grains = 2795 fps

Accuracy load: IMR4320, 32.0 grains = 2557 fps

Also, ensure you are not using any of the Nosler bullets, they will not stabilize in the 1-14 twist barrels, even states such in the nosler Reloading manual. Les

I read that in the Nosler manual. But I am a show me kind of guy and tried the 85 gr. Balistic tip in my 250 with a 1 in 14 twist. Was able to obtain groups consistantly under 1.5 inches
for 3 shots using RE15 and H4350. My 250 is not the most accurate 99 I own and does about the same with 87 Speers and Sierra's. Accuracy honors will have to go to my 300 and then the 303. Tested those 85BT's on a box full of wet newspaper(not a real tough media) at 100 yds. Due to the results of that test can't recommend them for big game. For that stick with the Speers.

circuitrider, in both of my 300's, 180 grain federals group best.

does any one know what the latest serial number was that had the one in forteen twist in the .250?

Anything up to 1 Million after that it went to a 1-10 twist. Les

Actually, 999,999 and lower. 1,000,000 would be 1 in 10..

Maybe Les meant "Anything under 1 Million".

:P okay smart azz. Les

Most 1x14 twists will shoot 87 gr. bullets very well, and some even shoot the 100 very well. Never trust a loading manual, my 250 has a 1x14 and it will shoot anything including Nolsers. My .308 99F will shoot about any bullet I load in it, and loves the 180 round nose Corelokt.

The best cure for a Savage is to glass bed the forend solid including the cirle of wood at the butt of the foredn and then run a bead of glass around the butt stock mortise. I have never seen one that would not shoot an inch with this treatment and i have glassed a ton of them.

Not on collector guns.

Whoops.. time to sit back and watch. Mike will be along shortly.

thanks for that info. i thought that i had read somewhere that they changed the twist shortly after the 100 gr. load came out.

Thanks Hemlock Ive only shot 150 grain out of my 300. I would like to try some at 180.

CR

Calhoun check your pm

Naw, Mike knows that there's no sense trying to teach those that refuse to learn. No sense wasting good tutoring.

Thanks for your help and sorry I did'nt get back sooner. I have tried nosler 85gr and nosler, sierra and hornady 100gr. Best I'm getting is about 2" to 3". I had'nt thought of recrowning as it looked good to my untrained eye, thanks again.

87gr Speer Hot-Cor.. still working up a load for my 99EG, but my bubba 1899 and 99T in 250 both love it with H4895.

what caliber are you asking about???????????????