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After getting one of those high tech ICD pacemakers installed, my Doctor, himself a hunter and shooter, made me swear off heavy recoil rifles. Still killing animals at will though, with “lesser” cartridges. 😜
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A lot of responses sound like excuses for poor marksmanship. They need to go back to the basics of shooting. Good form will cure a flinch. Wow, just wow... just when you thought you'd read it all.
“Perfection is Achieved Not When There Is Nothing More to Add, But When There Is Nothing Left to Take Away” Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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ya heavy recoil can be nasty but in some situations it just might be needed ? for whitetail bucks and muledeer bucks a like a rifle that shoots fast ,flat and hits them hard ,i liked to knock these bucks down and hard,bucks are many times alot tougher than the small deer and a flat shooting rifle is a real plus too.so these 3 cartridges and maybe some others is what i would use and do use too . 257 W.Mag,270 W.Mag ,264 Win.Mag. these 3 have less recoil but still shoot very flat and hit bucks dang hard too, and i am sure there are some others too ? and i am sure someone is going to mention more the Koolaid cartridges.
LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman
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I own and still hunt with a few hard kickers, however the majority of my shooting is with 223, 22-250, 243's etc.... I do run a few rounds through the bigger guns before the season to check zero.
I don't find the hard kickers enjoyable at the bench anymore.
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ya heavy recoil can be nasty but in some situations it just might be needed ? for whitetail bucks and muledeer bucks a like a rifle that shoots fast ,flat and hits them hard ,i liked to knock these bucks down and hard,bucks are many times alot tougher than the small deer and a flat shooting rifle is a real plus too.so these 3 cartridges and maybe some others is what i would use and do use too . 257 W.Mag,270 W.Mag ,264 Win.Mag. these 3 have less recoil but still shoot very flat and hit bucks dang hard too, and i am sure there are some others too ? and i am sure someone is going to mention more the Koolaid cartridges. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Doug, Try a .22-250 and a TTSX on Deer and you may sell the 7mm-08.  Good morning Harry, Since I originally posted this thread, I’ve had another moment of weakness. The LGS got a trade-in that I couldn’t resist, but it wasn’t a 22-250. It’s an early boat paddle stocked Ruger M-77 MkII stainless in...........308 Winchester. Recoil is not too bad, but this is as far up the caliber ladder as I’m going. And as Mathman stated earlier in this thread, I probably won’t load it to the gills either. Oh, and I do have a 223 for when I get really old!
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
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A lot of responses sound like excuses for poor marksmanship. They need to go back to the basics of shooting. Good form will cure a flinch. I've read this entire thread and didn't see any that spoke to the drivel you posed. Maybe you could quoe some of these poor marksmen.
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Doug, Try a .22-250 and a TTSX on Deer and you may sell the 7mm-08. Good morning Harry, Since I originally posted this thread, I’ve had another moment of weakness. The LGS got a trade-in that I couldn’t resist, but it wasn’t a 22-250. It’s an early boat paddle stocked Ruger M-77 MkII stainless in...........308 Winchester. Recoil is not too bad, but this is as far up the caliber ladder as I’m going. And as Mathman stated earlier in this thread, I probably won’t load it to the gills either. Oh, and I do have a 223 for when I get really old! After all these years, the guy who runs that LGS probably knows your weaknesses and what you can't resist!!!! 
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A lot of responses sound like excuses for poor marksmanship. They need to go back to the basics of shooting. Good form will cure a flinch. Good form will cure a lot of things - but never a flinch.
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Doug, Try a .22-250 and a TTSX on Deer and you may sell the 7mm-08. Good morning Harry, Since I originally posted this thread, I’ve had another moment of weakness. The LGS got a trade-in that I couldn’t resist, but it wasn’t a 22-250. It’s an early boat paddle stocked Ruger M-77 MkII stainless in...........308 Winchester. Recoil is not too bad, but this is as far up the caliber ladder as I’m going. And as Mathman stated earlier in this thread, I probably won’t load it to the gills either. Oh, and I do have a 223 for when I get really old! After all these years, the guy who runs that LGS probably knows your weaknesses and what you can't resist!!!! You may have something there!
If we live long enough, we all have regrets. But the ones that nag at us the most are the ones in which we know we had a choice.
Doug
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If you have a .30-06 in North America you don’t need anything else.
1st Special Operations Wing 1975-1983
919th Special Operations Wing 1983-1985 1993-1994
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Nope. Late to the party, but ditto. 😏
Wollen nicht krank dein feind. Planen es.
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Nope. Late to the party, but ditto. 😏 +2 Quigley
I am..........disturbed.
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708 would do about all you need...
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My 350 Rem Mag 660 kicks more than my CZ458 Lott. I'm figuring to go up in Big Bores because you have a better blood trail, can eat up to the bullet hole and it can never be big enough if you got a mean azz grizzly.
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My 350 Rem Mag 660 kicks more than my CZ458 Lott. I'm figuring to go up in Big Bores because you have a better blood trail, can eat up to the bullet hole and it can never be big enough if you got a mean azz grizzly. 👍 memtb
You should not use a rifle that will kill an animal when everything goes right; you should use one that will do the job when everything goes wrong." -Bob Hagel
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Keep in mind that bullet technology has changed a lot and has helped a lot for smaller calibers... However, if you think a 30-06 is a big gun.... HA... you have no clue what a big gun is... I have no idea why guys are shy about recoil... never once had an issue with it and never once felt it when I shot a deer either The testosterone is strong in this one. I need to let him shoot the 458 Lott so he can finally "Feel" recoil. Try a 505 Gibbs
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I have a few with the magnum designation. And a few of what may be considered bigger bores, depending upon who is doing the classification. My rule of thumb is if it hurts me, I will not be using it. My philosophy is shoot what you like. I have my personal bullet / cartridge minimums. But, that is purely personal and I worry not with what others use. I have been deer hunting (whitetails) for what will be 55 years this year, Lord willing. I have never owned a rifle (except for a lever action 44 magnum) with the word “Magnum” in it’s chambering. I have Elk hunted just once and successfully used a .308 Winchester. I have owned rifles chambered from the 223 Remington up to and including the 30-06 Springfield. I currently have a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 7mm-08 Remington and feel like I am well chambered for anything I have hunted and will hunt in the future. No Grizzleys in my future. My battery is complete. Call me a wuss if you want, but I’ve always liked shooting rifles that hurt worse on the front end than they do on the back end. Anybody else think the same way I think?
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My 350 Rem Mag 660 kicks more than my CZ458 Lott. I'm figuring to go up in Big Bores because you have a better blood trail, can eat up to the bullet hole and it can never be big enough if you got a mean azz grizzly. And if its in a CZ550, you can always take a chainsaw to the stock and whittle off enough lumber to build a cabin, should the need arise.
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I have been deer hunting (whitetails) for what will be 55 years this year, Lord willing. I have never owned a rifle (except for a lever action 44 magnum) with the word “Magnum” in it’s chambering. I have Elk hunted just once and successfully used a .308 Winchester. I have owned rifles chambered from the 223 Remington up to and including the 30-06 Springfield. I currently have a 6.5 Creedmoor and a 7mm-08 Remington and feel like I am well chambered for anything I have hunted and will hunt in the future. No Grizzleys in my future. My battery is complete. Call me a wuss if you want, but I’ve always liked shooting rifles that hurt worse on the front end than they do on the back end. Anybody else think the same way I think? If you are a wuss I may be a bigger wuss. I have owned one 7 mm mag and did not need to shoot it much to decide I do not care for its recoil at all! I was started out on a 6mm Rem and truth be told I feel this would have served me more than adequate for the deer hunting I have done & will be do going forward. To see what I was missing out on I have bought and used a 30-06, 270 Winchester & honestly for the hunting I do the 6.5 Grendel is as much as I feel I will need, Though If I would draw a Elk tag then I may brake out the 270 Win again.
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