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Go tell Sir Issac.

Yay. That's the first 100 done

At least by now everyone should have some facts of believe of their own choice.

You are looking at this from a uniform uiformitarianistic view. Consider gravitational time dilation. A proven concept of science used daily.
An astrophysicist wrote a book called 'Starlight and time. He has made predictions on what the space missions will discover. He has been correct in the scientific observations.

Okay. You use the Bible the way you want and I will use It correctly.

Geology has billions of dead things buried in water born sediment all over the world. That is exactly what one would look for for evidence of a world wide flood. Fossils are the preserved bones of the dead things. Genetic diversity, gene expression, epigenetic are a few things used to support Special Creation.
Adaptation was predicted by William Blythe, a creationists, as God's mechanism for preserving animals, ten years prior to Darwin's' book

The strata runs deep, there are no large or small animals fossils to be found in precambrian layers.....3 billion years of microbes before conditions enabled an explosion of complexity and diversity. That is not evidence for special creation, it is evidence for natural evolution. Nor is it anything like genesis describes.

Creationists sift the evidence and their explanations of that evidence through the filter of their faith and what comes out of that filtering does not explain the evidence.

Don't you think that physicists take relativity into account?

Only in the sense that, if it were indeed wrong, it would be extremely easy to prove it wrong. Ways to prove evolution wrong would be manifold, were it in fact wrong. You'd hardly be able to research it without proving it wrong constantly. Just for one example, find a single equine fossil prior to (beneath, in undisturbed strata) the Paleocene Epoch. In terms of life on earth, that's like ten minutes till midnight on a clock where midnight represents the present. Were evolution false, those fossils would be abundant. Heck, you'd find modern day horses at every level you dug (all the way back to the Cambrian) if evolution were false. Find one, and you've disproved evolution.

That's what we mean when we say evolution is disprovable. It doesn't actually mean that there's a chance it will eventually be disproved. With so many ways to disprove it, were it untrue, it would have already been disproved long ago. Now we're beyond that, and arguing only over precise aspects of the mechanisms by which it occurred.

This is precisely why evolution is a "theory" in the dictionary definition because it never has and never will demonstrate repeatedly the purely materialistic spontaneous generation of life or the simultaneous development of all 30+ fine tuned mechanisms required for life. If the hypothesis has no scientific way to get started (it isn't taking us anywhere scientific), it certainly cannot be demonstrated, and therefore it is relegated to the simple dictionary definition of (non-scientific) theory i.e. an unproven assumption. This is why we insist and will continue to insist on the typical dictionary definition because not only is it unproven ... it is also both unscientific and illogical.

I already addressed the definition of faith as defined by the original Webster definition and the meaning of it in Greek--citing a lexicon. The faith you describe is an evolutionist's faith and not a biblical faith.

And there is the practical side that we want to reiterate again ...

Theistic views birthed our country and the other beneficent countries of the world and gave them the liberties that we enjoy based on all men being created and therefore deemed of equal value. Theistic premises do not guarantee that man will not be selfish or remain uncorrupted; but they provide moral restraint against selfishness, hold all humanity to an equal standard of justice, and provide the societal framework for the potential development of beneficence. Theistic based governments have provided a framework for the liberty to express atheism and all other forms of religion, providing they do not cross the foundational moral boundaries of that society. At the point in time in which theism is completely rejected or overwhelmed by the due process of a free society, that society will, experience the loss of liberties, and begin a moral decline from which there will be no recovery. This will proceed under the guise of science until it reaches the inevitable Big Bang that will ultimately destroy itself.

There is no moral basis for human equality in either evolution or atheism. Human equality in an atheistic or evolutionary context lies solely with the arbitrary whims of the power structure, because the power structure answers to no transcendent moral authority and only answers to itself. This is why governments based on the premises of evolution and atheism have consistently demonstrated their tyrannical despotism, their eventual corruption, the loss of the practice of liberty of conscience, and often even basic human rights for some dissident segments of the population. When evolution and atheism are the fundamental premises, they will suppress and try to forcibly eradicate theism because it becomes enemy number 1 to the agenda for is opposed to its very foundational premises.

Athens, circa 600 BC?

I have a question.

The premise of the above paragraph is that only withing theism resides human equality and moral propriety.

How do you explain that every major religion has not only condoned inequality, but they have at various times promoted it and in the case of christian religion the despotic and tyrannical opposition to fact in the form of the inquisition and the killing and imprisoning of the victims thereof?

That seems to me to be no less tyrannical and despotic than any government. It also seems to me that to be arguing in favor of a theocracy that has practiced such despotism is more than just ingenuous, it is A bold faced lie intended to deceive or it is pure plain and simple ignorance. Either of which makes such debate a fools errand.

Do you really believe that all those billions of fossils were all deposited at the same time in one flood?

It took millions of years to bury all those billions of dead things.

I carefully chose my wording and used these terms--theism--morality--equality--religious liberty. I did not say that any particular religion should be state established and would be opposed to that--because that inevitably leads to another form of suppression. What I promoted is exactly what our founders promoted. Do you agree with the founding principles of our country--All men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain inalienable rights? You cannot form a society on an amoral foundation or you will have an amoral and immoral society.

As bad as all the religious persecution has been, and it has been horrible, societies founded on atheism or evolution or the two in combination have been exponentially worse in their suppression and persecution.

In summary I'm promoting what our founders promoted--theism--morality--equality--religious liberty.

What kept them from decaying before they fossilized over those millions of years?

200 pages.

1) Absence of bacteria due to absence of oxygen (usually due to being covered in silt), and 2) mineralization.

The kind of bacteria that consumes organic matter requires oxygen.

https://biologydictionary.net › fossil-record
Fossil Record Definition
A fossil record is a group of fossils which has been analyzed and arranged chronologically and in taxonomic order. Fossils are created when organisms die, are incased in dirt and rock, and are slowly replaced by minerals over time. What is left is a mineral impression of an animal which once existed. Many fields and specialties are utilized to categorize and arrange these fossils, including comparative anatomy, radiometric dating, and DNA analysis. Using the data from the fossil record, scientist try to recreate phylogenies, or trees describing the relationships between animals, both alive and extinct. The fossil record helps inform how different groups of animals are related through evolution.