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As bearing on Christianity, I may well sound stupid to the atheists, and as bearing on science, I may well sound silly to the Young Earth Creationists. To me, I just sound like a non-science-denying Christian who sees no contradiction between science and revelation.

Discussing science with you is not very fruitful because you are a functional illiterate on the subject and one has to have a high school education to understand the argument.

For instance, I ask for any evidence, outside of the Bible, that the miracles in Genesis happened. Instead of evidence, you just repeat the assertions and try to refute the overwhelming opinion of science by saying things that indicate you don't understand what you're talking about, or have read from bissed sources.

The above statement is an example.

The "known mechanics of gas" are such that pressure depends on gas density and temperature (duh). Gravitationsl force depends on the mass of the attractor and its distance. (duh). So gravity can easily overcome gas pressuren in many circumstances. How do you think the earth holds onto its air? (duh, duh, duh.) How do you think the sun, which is 100% gas and has a temperature of 6000 degrees Kelvin, keeps from flying apart? (duh, duh, duh, duh.)

I ask again, WHAT SPECIFIC EVIDENCE IS THERE, OUTSIDE OF THE ASSERTIONS IN THE BIBLE, THAT THE MOST ABSURD PARTS OF GENESIS HAPPENED??

And do YOU believe in talking snakes?

So, we have some astrophysicists who claim, without observational evidence, clouds turn into stars. We have others who are just as educated who disagree. One is based on the unseen faith that things cannot be created in their present condition and the other depends on things we can see and not guess about what happened in the unseen past.

There are no "MOST ABSURD PARTS OF GENESIS" for the Bible believer It is all sober history. You start from an opposite bias as me. We were not there and know no one who was and take our positions on faith: Yours that God is not real and mine is that the God of the Bible is more real than we are.

No.

I'm not the one being obtuse. It is you who is trying to impose a meaning to faith that is not applicable. The bible itself defines faith as a belief held without evidence; Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen - Hebrews.

But maybe you just don't understand the definition or significance of faith.

How life got started in no way, shape or form negates the fact that life evolves in response to environmental conditions, genetic diversity, mutations, etc....

You still engage with the fallacy of ''we don't know x, therefore God.''

Wrong! We know what did NOT happen. Therefore God.

only man is arrogant enough to think they can tell what happened a million yrs ago from a fossil.... lmao

Jesus to Thomas;

John 20:29 (NASB)
Jesus *said to him, “Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed.”

thus reinforcing that 'believing' without having evidence or proof is what 'faith' is truelly about...

https://biblehub.com/commentaries/john/20-29.htm

What exactly is this thing 'we know did not happen' and how do we actually 'know' this?

Plus the claim "we know what did not happen" does not logically equate to "God" - which is also unexplained.

Yet it is man that tells us that God, whatever that is, created the universe.

At least we creationists appeal to Something rather than nothing, which can do nothing, for all we see. You choose blind faith over logic.
And then try to smugly act as though you have the upper hand.

i believe in a higher power but not organized religion. last time i had surgery they had to resuscitate me i can remember what went on the operating room when that happened.

Except that science doesn't appeal to 'nothing' Something exists and that something works on a defined set of principles which we call physics, strong force, weak force, gravity, etc. Science does not appeal to anything, it simply observes the world and learns about it through rigorous testing....weeding out errors in the process.

How does that relate to a higher power?

Your point and it's relationship to the fact that evolution happens?

Only a few men are proudly ignorant enough to believe it didn't.

Not clear at all. This first light, it came from where? There was no where for it to come from, and it went where?

Such light does not exist in this universe, so what evidence do you have of this amazing Nuevo Light existed? Have you generated this typ of light in the lab? Do you have a mathematics that explains how it exists stationary in time and space? Tell us more about this first light because it is unlike and photon beam we know today. It must really be something.

So why then create a sun to produce light , when one has already created light?




Whats wrong with just relying on the stars to generate starlight?

Simple: create stars at just the right time and place, and you have starlight arriving exactly when and where you want it.

Oh, what a tangled web they weave....:)

Well its seems God created interim light, so he could have time to get a process up and running to provide light proper.