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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper


I see lots of prayer requests on The Fire. What I don't see is evidence they improve outcomes for the prayer recipient.


People who pray are typically selfish in their pursuit.

They tend to desire a specific outcome that suits themselves and not necessarily the will of their God.

True faith would mean that one already trusts an all knowing GOD to already know precisely what is needed,
or appropriate in Gods plan.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

I see lots of prayer requests on The Fire. What I don't see is evidence they improve outcomes for the prayer recipient.


Do you believe tthat the prayer requestors owe you some kind of evidence on the outcome?



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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper

I see lots of prayer requests on The Fire. What I don't see is evidence they improve outcomes for the prayer recipient.


Do you believe that the prayer requestors owe you some kind of evidence on the outcome?


What an interestingly defensive response?


I was just making an observation about a data point.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Prayer is a form of supplication to a higher power, a God....please God grant us this request. Which is odd from the perspective of God, being described as omniscient and omnipotent, therefore perfectly able to create a world where both suffering and supplication is unnecessary. Some may hope and pray for financial gain or power and status.

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Christians can tend to question or dislike the hand their God has dealt them.

of course they have choices in how they play their hand,, they can listen to scientific meteorological reports
of an impending hurricane or tornado, and get their asses out of that region in timely manner, or cling to prayers
hoping God will redirect the tempest winds to some other location and consequently to some other unfortunate
souls horror or disadvantage.

Faith is trusting that some other poor unsuspecting baztard deserves a hurricane more than the person praying does.


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What are you guys arguing about?
You are all going to hell anyways...


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Originally Posted by Tom264
What are you guys arguing about?
You are all going to hell anyways...


I'd say that group is a lot larger than many in this thread anticipate.............'Christians' included.


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I’d say 99% of all people who ever lived/currently living/ or will come is hell bound.
>>enjoy!


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according to some Christians, Satan is the God appointed chief superintendent of hell.

unfortunately, scripture says God controls heaven and hell ..and Jesus holds the keys
to death and hell where Satan will be locked up.


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Originally Posted by Tom264
I’d say 99% of all people who ever lived/currently living/ or will come is hell bound.
>>enjoy!


And I suppose you believe you and your loved ones are in the special 1% not headed to hell?


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by Tom264
I’d say 99% of all people who ever lived/currently living/ or will come is hell bound.
>>enjoy!

No worries........if it comes to that I’ll meet you there.


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AS, no matter how you fight Him, Roman's and its satan fought Him more ferociously. HE and His Word will be rolling along just as He wishes and proclaimed all along long after you are dust and gone.

Why are you so concerned about us stupid Christians being wrong? If you see yourself as our protector, stand down.

He loses none that come to Him.

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All this talk about hell and satan... Lucifer.... the snake.... reminded me.

I wonder if Leroy is going to explain that comment about me “conversing” with snakes?

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The tax collector said: “Lord Jesus, have mercy on me, a sinner.” Jesus said he went home “justified.”

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Originally Posted by Idaho_Shooter
And the Earth was flooded with fresh water about 4000 yrs ago,

1: Where did all the salt water fishes come from?

2: How did all of the millions of terrestrial species of mammals, reptiles, and birds survive the flood?

3: Why are not all humans still black?


Well, they moved north and needed to blend in with the snow due to polar bears, you know. They didnt need to have pigmented skin to absorb the suns winter rays cause they discovered fire.


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A Nation which leaves God behind is soon left behind.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx


He loses none that come to Him.


One who came to the feast invited , was then ordered by the King to be bound and cast out into the outer darkness.

Originally Posted by jaguartx
AS, ...
Why are you so concerned about us stupid Christians being wrong? ...
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its more a question of why would such a capable God select such a sick and wicked bunch to glorify him?

Who scrapes the bottom of the barrel when selecting folks to work and live in their house?


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Originally Posted by Starman
[quote=jaguartx]

He loses none that come to Him.


One who came to the feast invited , was then ordered by the King to be bound and cast out into the outer darkness.

[quote=jaguartx]

Well, against my better judgment..... what in the world are you talking about?

Pls cite the biblical reference and then explain..... I suspect you will have to do a cut and paste, but go ahead.....

I suspect that at usual..... you are way off target and have no idea what you’re talking about.... but, maybe I am wrong......?


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Originally Posted by TF49


Well, against my better judgment..... what in the world are you talking about?

Pls cite the biblical reference and then explain....


The self professed 'truth' bearer does know the verse I am refering to?...spoon feeding time again?

Originally Posted by TF49

I suspect that at usual..... you are way off target and have no idea what you’re talking about....


TF49 = the Christian who says that what any Christian thinks or believes doesn't matter?

Ive not heard one Christian on the CF ever agree with you on that 'irrelevant' held belief.


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Originally Posted by Starman
Originally Posted by TF49


Well, against my better judgment..... what in the world are you talking about?

Pls cite the biblical reference and then explain....


The self professed 'truth' bearer does know the verse I am refering to?...spoon feeding time again?

Originally Posted by TF49

I suspect that at usual..... you are way off target and have no idea what you’re talking about....


TF49 = the Christian who says that what any Christian thinks or believes doesn't matter?

Ive not heard one Christian on the CF ever agree with you on that 'irrelevant' held belief.



You have no idea do you?

Can’t back up what you say.

You post without thinking and without understanding.


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Well its right there in the BIble, how many instances are there where a guest got invited to a feast
and got thrown out by the King that had him invited?


Originally Posted by TF49
I suspect you will have to do a cut and paste, but go ahead.....



You want to know the verse , but get annoyed if I directly quote/cut and paste it word-for-word from Bible.

go figure.


Originally Posted by TF49


You post without thinking and without understanding.



you mean people don't follow your understanding, or is Ringmans or Thundersticks
or jAgX s etc etc,.. that people need to follow...?


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