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Because the 225 grain bullets shoot so well.
I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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With my 35 Whelen, I have killed elk with both 225 gr. Partitions and Accubonds. I could not tell any difference between these two bullets in performance on game, but the Accubonds just seem to fly better in all of my rifles. CP.
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I dunno. 225 is an odd number ? Mebbe I should buy one just to find out. Problem I had with the .358 was it shot everything very well. Boring gun. Figured all the.35's were like that back then, maybe I was wrong.
I am..........disturbed.
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Actually, I suspect the reason a lot of people like 225's in some .35's is higher muzzle velocity, so they shoot flatter. Among the most reliably accurate loads for the 225 AccuBond is enough Varget to get 2700+ fps, which makes it easy to place shots at 400 yards.
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I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! There is only one kind of dead, but there are many different kinds of wounded.
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In my youth I was deeply concerned about higher velocity. Not so much anymore. You gentlemen can carry on without me.
Quigley
PS: other than SEA I've never hunted where a shot much over 150 yds was possible.
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I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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I sold my 358Norma to my manager, along with a couple of boxes worth of 225 accubonds. He eats elk every year he hunts with it, and deer every year.
Tells me it reliably kills elk and mulies.
Who would have thought?
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'Splain to me how a BC of .430 significantly outperforms a BC of .421 at the 2,700 +/- fps MV of the .35 Whelen, please.
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It's too early in the morning for gak.
I am..........disturbed.
Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain
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WAM, I sincerely doubt the BC's of the 225 AccuBond and Partition are as close as the .430/.421 Nosler lists. This is based not just on the "form factor" of both bullets (especially plastic vs. softpoint, boattail vs. flat base) but some experience with shooting both of them at ranges beyond 100 yards, along with plenty of other AccuBonds and Partitions of the same caliber and weight.
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Unlikely that the elk will be able to tell the difference. No bad choice here. fully agree.....that said, why not try the 200 grain TTSX? They have proven themselves to me and as a bonus, we are finding increasing demands for lead free bullets.....the ranch I hunt requires it and more will follow in the future. IMO they are as good at terminal performance as it gets.....and many others are singing it's praises as well....not just me.
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Per Mule Deer, "Among the most reliably accurate loads for the 225 AccuBond is enough Varget to get 2700+ fps, which makes it easy to place shots at 400 yards".
Varget is what my friends use for there 225 Accubond load. One of them with the tricked out Remington 700 and the big Burris Eliminator scope has no problem hitting the Ram at 800 yards at our local range. What is really impressive is when he hits the Ram's the nose, on purpose. If I was not a long time fan and user of the .338 Winny and 338-06 I would be using the same Whelan load and make up an under 7 lb. rifle for it.
I believe that load is a candidate for an all around Alaskan big game load. It seems to have all the "right stuff" for big critters near or far, good bullet design, large diameter and sufficient muzzle velocity for delivering sufficient impact velocity at real world hunting distances. It also does not recoil like a .338 Winny in most rifles and one can usually get 4 to 5 rounds in the magazine. Not that 4 to 5 rounds in a magazine is needed in a magazine if the shooter does their part, but the magazine is a great place to store extra ammo!
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Mule Deer, what would you say are the “real world” BC’s of the 225 A/bond vs the 225 Partition? I’ve always thought that the BC of the A/bond and the discontinued 225 B/tip would be better than reported, or at least there would be a bigger difference between them and the Partitions.
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WAM, I sincerely doubt the BC's of the 225 AccuBond and Partition are as close as the .430/.421 Nosler lists. This is based not just on the "form factor" of both bullets (especially plastic vs. softpoint, boattail vs. flat base) but some experience with shooting both of them at ranges beyond 100 yards, along with plenty of other AccuBonds and Partitions of the same caliber and weight. MD, I agree with you. The BC of the 225 gr Accubond was advertised as .421 a few years back when I had a custom CDS turret made. So now listed at .430 by Nosler an NPT at .421? Me thinks there is more than one something rotten in Orygun. Happy Trails
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